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baritone with conversion neck or bass 6

new-killer-star

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Perhaps folks here can help me. I'm going around in circles trying to figure out whether to get a bass 6 or baritone jazzmaster conversion.

It doesn't help that I'm not partial to any of the in stock baritone conversion necks, they are all just 'ok'.

I'm concerned the baritone is not bassy enough.
 
I recently built what you are describing by putting a Warmoth baritone conversion neck on a Squier VM Jazzmaster. The lowest I could seem to tune it was to A-D-G-C-E-A. I used the lighter 5 strings from a set of Bass VI strings, and an unwound .020 for the high(er) A string. A fun baritone, but not what I would call a bass.

The extra length of inactive string behind the bridge on JM style guitars helps with the tension issues when tuning that low, but in the end, if you want a true Bass VI (tuned to low E), I would say just have 'em build ya what you want. JM pickups' voicings don't lend themselves to the lower tuning, IMO, (I later installed some CiJ JM pickups that weren't as thick so I could get something like clarity), and I found it desirable to install a buzz-stop on the tail piece with the larger gauge strings.

I would think that Warmoth has designed the Bass VI to perform well with the heavier strings and lower tuning, and so if you have the $$$ for made-to-order, I would go that route. I tried to put VI strings on a baritone only to find out that the old saying is true: "Sticking feathers up one's butt does not make them a chicken".

 
Yes this is wise and I probably knew this already, it helps to have someone outside speak plainly.

I guess I'll just have to get one of each.
 
new-killer-star said:
Perhaps folks here can help me. I'm going around in circles trying to figure out whether to get a bass 6 or baritone jazzmaster conversion.

It doesn't help that I'm not partial to any of the in stock baritone conversion necks, they are all just 'ok'.

I'm concerned the baritone is not bassy enough.

I've been mulling over this possibility myself.  The difference in scale length doesn't really seem that much.  I'm not so much concerned about how low the tuning would be as having sufficient string tension for the strings I'd want to put on it.  I'm leaning in the Bass VI direction.  Also, the Bass VI strikes me as a great concept that never really got done right, so the prospect of doing one my way appeals to me.  Very curious to see what you come up with! 
 
I agree, I'm mostly concerned about the string tension being there. I'm also now firmly in the one of each camp.

I suspect I will end up with a baritone first and push off the bass 6 build until the summer months, but really who knows.
 
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