Automatic Tuning for the Strat guys

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I disagree.  Technology like that if aimed at the beginner, is missed.  The sting changing seems less than simple for a Noob, plus the added battery that Noobs will no doubt not replace anyway.  Besides, if tuning is the deterrent, then they probably weren't going to play anyway.

 

[DangerousR6]

I disagree with several previous posts, no offense.

This is a perfect system for a "New" guitar player.

We all know people who tried to learn guitar, only to give up because they either have a crap guitar, or a decent guitar that sounds like crap cuz its outta tune. I would bet more people give up on the guitar outa frustration than any other reason. and how your guitar sounds to yourself when starting out is huge.

if your axe is tuned right, that first E chord you learn that sounds good, might keep you going.

I totally agree with the last part, sound and playability is a definate motivator for noobs.....However determination in my opinion is more of a key factor in learing to play....And alternate tunings are more for advanced players than noobs.... :dontknow:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

This could even extend to tone.  Learning to play w/out getting a decent tone, no one ever comes back around to getting a good one.  If you have a guitar that can tune itself, why or how would one ever learn to?  Tuning and toning are part of learning the instrument.  In another forum, someone made the comment that kids today never learn their instrument (most times) if left to their own devices.  If anyone has ever been in a school band, you learn to tune, clean, and maintenance it before ever playing it.  The brass instruments even spend time with just the mouthpiece before ever picking up the instrument.  Now, you get a Robot guitar and a modeling amp and you're golden.  Right?  Just look at what texting and auto-correcting has done to grammar and spelling. 

 

[Death by Uberschall]

Gotta wonder why we don't see self-tuning basses.....
Maybe it's cuz WE USE OUR EARS MORE!!!!!!
Just had to throw that in the pot.... Ignore me all you want, you pansies.... :laughing8:

Will all the wrong notes bass players throw in there, being out of tune is actually an improvement!!  :toothy11:








j/k, I couldn't help myself.  :icon_jokercolor:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Who are all of these bad bass players you keep playing with?

 

[Death by Uberschall]

Who are all of these bad bass players you keep playing with?

I'm mostly just joking around with you guys.

But I did play with two bassist longer than I should have. Both thought it was OK to get close enough when learning the songs. And I quote, "The audience won't know the difference or care even if they do" attitudes.  :tard:

 

[pabloman]

I thought the bass player was just the shittiest guitar player. That's how it was groing up anyway and why I always got stuck playing bass

 

[AutoBat]

How do you get a bass player off your porch?
Pay him for the pizza.

 

[jay4321]

Doesn't seem that terrible. Anything that keeps you playing more can't be all that bad, and breaks between songs could be spent enjoying some nice beverage or talking to the cocktail server.

 

[BassmanAK]

Jeez.... Tough room.... I sense a touch of LGD in here...
(Lead Guitar Disease, to ya'll skinny stringers...)

I thought the bass player was just the shitetiest guitar player. That's how it was groing up anyway and why I always got stuck playing bass

I'll go with that, because for the most part, I agree.... And besides... Leaves more work for me.... :glasses10:

 

[CrackedPepper]

totally agree with the last part, sound and playability is a definate motivator for noobs.....However determination in my opinion is more of a key factor in learing to play....And alternate tunings are more for advanced players than noobs.... :dontknow:

What if:  this thing really works & sounds good and you can only afford one nice guitar and you use alternate tunings.  It seems this could be a useful tool.  Not everyone has a bunch of guitars and/or a tech to re-tune for you between songs.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Gotta wonder why we don't see self-tuning basses.....
Maybe it's cuz WE USE OUR EARS MORE!!!!!!
Just had to throw that in the pot.... Ignore me all you want, you pansies.... :laughing8:

Will all the wrong notes bass players throw in there, being out of tune is actually an improvement!!  :toothy11:

Who are all of these bad bass players you keep finding?

 

[Death by Uberschall]

Gotta wonder why we don't see self-tuning basses.....
Maybe it's cuz WE USE OUR EARS MORE!!!!!!
Just had to throw that in the pot.... Ignore me all you want, you pansies.... :laughing8:

Will all the wrong notes bass players throw in there, being out of tune is actually an improvement!!  :toothy11:

Who are all of these bad bass players you keep finding?

Who are all of these bad bass players you keep playing with?

I'm mostly just joking around with you guys.

But I did play with two bassist longer than I should have. Both thought it was OK to get close enough when learning the songs. And I quote, "The audience won't know the difference or care even if they do" attitudes.  :tard:

 

[lidesnowi]

Every time i grab my guitar i instinctively tune it,do this qualify me as an automatic tuner  :icon_scratch:

 

[Superlizard]

Yeah these newfangled self-tuning inventions for the geetar are 99% lazy-ass.

I can see if someone like say Jimmy Page was doing a concert and had to switch to "Rain Song"
tuning on-the-fly (that would be more Robot Gibson lines).

But really, the reason why guitar playing (overall) nowadays sucks is because of the lackadaisical attitude
harbored by the lazy-ass, angst-ridden suburbanite teenyboppers and fostered by inventions such as this.

The grunge movement pretty much started it all... they claimed that doing solos was "lame", but
deep down they were just lazy-asses who didn't want to practice.  Then along came nu-metal
and the drop-tuning one-finger power chord.  Yawn.

Throw in a little Guitar Hero and now anybody can be a rock star with a minimum of effort today...   :laughing11:

Guitar playing:  Easy to learn, difficult to master.  Even Esteban practices, I''ll bet.  :guitaristgif:

 

[Velcro]

It's a bit of a gimmick/novelty, but it might catch on. Also does it need batterys?

 

[lidesnowi]

Yeah these newfangled self-tuning inventions for the geetar are 99% lazy-ass.

I can see if someone like say Jimmy Page was doing a concert and had to switch to "Rain Song"
tuning on-the-fly (that would be more Robot Gibson lines).

But really, the reason why guitar playing (overall) nowadays sucks is because of the lackadaisical attitude
harbored by the lazy-ass, angst-ridden suburbanite teenyboppers and fostered by inventions such as this.

The grunge movement pretty much started it all... they claimed that doing solos was "lame", but
deep down they were just lazy-asses who didn't want to practice.  Then along came nu-metal
and the drop-tuning one-finger power chord.  Yawn.

Throw in a little Guitar Hero and now anybody can be a rock star with a minimum of effort today...   :laughing11:

Guitar playing:  Easy to learn, difficult to master.   Even Esteban practices, I''ll bet.  :guitaristgif:

True Words of wisdom ,I agree with you completely  :icon_thumright:

 

[jay4321]

I like the functionality of these things, though my biggest concern would be how long it holds up before breaking, same thing with the Robot guitar and the ones with the electronic pads and lights and all of that. A well-built "normal" guitar could potentially last for many generations, gizmos don't tend to fare so well.

Then again, in 40 years, we could be talking about the unreal collector value of these, and kids will be laughing at those of us who actually tuned by hand and ear.

 

[dudesweet157]

Personally, I think it's a great idea, and very practical.  My band plays several songs that were originally in alternate tunings, and I either have to fake it in standard tuning, or bring multiple guitars (I usually end up faking it, real estate on stage is a premium in a 5 piece w/ steel guitar).  Ideally, I'd have one guitar in standard A440, one a half step down, one in open G, and one in open E; however, that will likely never happen.  I have my main guitar in A440 with a backup in its case and one in open E.  Songs in open G (lots of Stones songs) I just fake in A440, and songs that we should really do a half step down (to facilitate vocal range), we just do in A440, which kills your vocal chords towards the end of the last set.

If it really works like it does in the demo video, I'd love one!  It would make it so much easier to cover lots of songs the right way, and any extra space to move on stage is a good thing in my book.

-David

 

[bagman67]

Personally, I think it's a great idea, and very practical.  My band plays several songs that were originally in alternate tunings, and I either have to fake it in standard tuning, or bring multiple guitars (I usually end up faking it, real estate on stage is a premium in a 5 piece w/ steel guitar).  Ideally, I'd have one guitar in standard A440, one a half step down, one in open G, and one in open E; however, that will likely never happen.  I have my main guitar in A440 with a backup in its case and one in open E.  Songs in open G (lots of Stones songs) I just fake in A440, and songs that we should really do a half step down (to facilitate vocal range), we just do in A440, which kills your vocal chords towards the end of the last set.

If it really works like it does in the demo video, I'd love one!  It would make it so much easier to cover lots of songs the right way, and any extra space to move on stage is a good thing in my book.

-David

To be honest, I looked at this gizmo (and the Gibson Robot) as new and exciting ways to separate the rubes from their cash until this cogent summary of why this stuff is a good idea.  Thanks for challenging my knee-jerk cynicism.

Peace

Bagman