the $100 build contest reminded me of the design contest and id really like to do that. i know she said she was taking a little hiatus but it feels like it's been a while. i hope she's not still po'd about the opposition to the idea. if not who is still onboard for a design contest? after the $100 dollar build thing of coarse i wouldn't want to take away from that.
anyone talk to hannah?
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Perfect pitch is -VERY- subjective. It will only matter if all you play is A=440. Sure, this is standard now, but some people do play outside A=440 in which case "perfect pitch" is no longer perfect.
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You cannot develop perfect pitch. You can, however, develop very good relative pitch. I have three friends with perfect pitch, including one who's a former bandmate of several Warmoth employees.
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yeah blah blah, perfect pitch isnt real. i know music isnt standardized and it shouldnt be. ya know pianos are tuned mostly throught a circle of fifths by ear. but instead of fifths they go one octave and a fifth to bring the different harmonics into play. ya guys should look into it. it's how i tune my guitar now. i think it works better but cant really be done with an electric tuner. i set intonation off the 19th fret and 19th fret harmonic. then the low E is tuned to 14th fret A and 9th fret D 4th fret G and open B. B is tuned to middle C at the first fret, high e is tuned to open A and 5th fret low E. i repeat this patern on the other strings to check the intonation again, in the future i might try nut correction with this meathod but i feel the strings change too much in the breakin process and i might nail it only to have it go out two days latter and a big reason i feel true tempered fret boards and compensated nuts are a waist of time, intonation will never be perfect if just for the fact that it changes as the string ages no matter how you temper the tuning. anyway i feel the guitar sounds better overall without any special nut or modification using this way of by ear tuning.
im glad to hear hannah is getting better, i already started ignoring facebook and my actual friends, if i can just leave this board maybe i could get better too!
im glad to hear hannah is getting better, i already started ignoring facebook and my actual friends, if i can just leave this board maybe i could get better too!
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Perfect pitch is real, you just cannot develop it.
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^^ This.
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Kaoskadosk said:
That's not quite true. Those of us with perfect pitch can usually calibrate ourselves to altered tunings. For example, I can listen to various recordings by different artists (or even the same artist at different times) and still tell which note is being played, despite variations in tape speed or how people tuned up their instruments at a given concert/session. I can tell you if it's sharp or flat.
Left to my own devices, if you asked me to or sing an "A" without any context, it would probably be closer to 435 Hz.
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I'm not so sure that's true either. I discovered that I had perfect pitch at age 3, and I can't explain how I "learned" it. I think it was more of a realization, and the process of associating note names with the "tonal colors" that I could identify. But I'm not willing to discount other people's attempts to learn perfect pitch, or at least a highly refined version of relative pitch.
I do think the attempts to sell CD-based training kits are a bit funny though.
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tubby.twins said:
I'm totally sure it's true. I'm not being hyperbolic or trying to be cool or whatever. Perfect pitch is a brain anomaly, and tone "colors" or "flavors" are a common reference point. The bottom line is that while we may be able to develop some pieces of the understanding of perfect pitch, all us regular folks can do is work on our relative pitch and our understandings of common sounds and their pitches (what pitch is 60 cycle hum? a dial tone on a telephone? etc). I spent years with a friend who has perfect pitch; using instruments of different tones and timbres to try to fool him and teach me, and I can tell you beyond a doubt that his understanding (and those of my other two perfect-pitched friends) are nothing like mine. I'm no slouch, either. I can restring and tune a guitar or bass to pitch without a reference and I can play both trombone and fretless/upright bass. I can tell you what key a song is in no matter what instrumentation and be right 95% of the time. Again, all other empirical evidence aside, my own personal experience leaves zero doubt in my mind that perfect pitch is a whole different experience.
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i dont think that it's not real but based on how pianos are tuned for someone to recognize the pitch exactly and decide if it's in tune or not in tune cant be possible if the scale isn't 100% standardized the ear of someone with perfect pitch may become accustomed to one particular instrument and then think all others are not fully in tune. each piano is tuned differently based on the tuner the harmonic stretch of each particular string and the construction of the piano, not that the tuner thinks about those things just they come into play and determine the best compromise to the ear of the tuner.
to hear a note and decide what it is within one semi tone is within the realm of human hearing and is not fake, and i think it can be learned or maybe i should say that some that have it and dont realized it can unlock there potential. and im not agaist the idea that all people with decent hearing can do it either, just i imagine it's not an easy thing to find the language to teach it.
to hear a note and decide what it is within one semi tone is within the realm of human hearing and is not fake, and i think it can be learned or maybe i should say that some that have it and dont realized it can unlock there potential. and im not agaist the idea that all people with decent hearing can do it either, just i imagine it's not an easy thing to find the language to teach it.
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So Hannah is doing good? Alright.
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