Another Gibson Fail ??
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LOL, the only thing I like about it is the headstock, rest is junk.... :laughing11:Wyliee said:
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OzziePete
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Well, Henry's done a good job here!!! :laughing7:
He's taken a very unpopular body shape (reverse Firebird body) with niche market pickups (mini hums), built in a non-Gibson style (neckthrough), added a new (what looks like squished) headstock, AND shoved current computer connectivity into it (which could be obsolete in 5 years time if OS set ups change and/or new faster connectivity protocols are formatted. How many people use a 1.4Mb floppy these days or even a CD-Rom? Looking at my newer PC, it doesn't utilise the older styled connections for the printer or mouse, that's now done via USB.......get my point? So when Bluetooth moves on what will happen to this guitar? A firmware upgrade costing how much? Do you take the guitar to the local luthier shop or the PC repair store?).
Man, this guitar has all the hallmarks of being tagged the "Lemoncaster", which is a pity cause I happen to like mini humbuckers and non-reverse Firebirds with a neckthrough design. Now, when this model fails, they'll all be tagged as dogs! :sad:
He's taken a very unpopular body shape (reverse Firebird body) with niche market pickups (mini hums), built in a non-Gibson style (neckthrough), added a new (what looks like squished) headstock, AND shoved current computer connectivity into it (which could be obsolete in 5 years time if OS set ups change and/or new faster connectivity protocols are formatted. How many people use a 1.4Mb floppy these days or even a CD-Rom? Looking at my newer PC, it doesn't utilise the older styled connections for the printer or mouse, that's now done via USB.......get my point? So when Bluetooth moves on what will happen to this guitar? A firmware upgrade costing how much? Do you take the guitar to the local luthier shop or the PC repair store?).
Man, this guitar has all the hallmarks of being tagged the "Lemoncaster", which is a pity cause I happen to like mini humbuckers and non-reverse Firebirds with a neckthrough design. Now, when this model fails, they'll all be tagged as dogs! :sad:
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I can personally see some poor sap trying to get the built-in effects to work right at a gig, and the whole thing just becoming a big snarled mess. I thought that the Robot was a gimmick from the start--it really isn't a chore to tune a guitar. Keith Richards could do it in the seventies being as bombed on heroin as he was. Now, we're adding digital reverb, delay and distortion to the guitar itself. Once again, how hard is it to step on a pedal? Maybe if you were barefoot........
In all seriousness though, who exactly owns Gibson? People have been bellyaching about Juszkiewicz being an absolute fruitcake for years now, and it now appears that its time for a change before one of America's mucical icons becomes more of a gimmick than anything else. This is proof that the dude needs to be ousted.
Also, WTF going on in that picture? Is he smashing one of his own guitars, and why is he doing that? Also, is that a block of ice, or one of those salt lick blocks that farmers use to balance out their cattle's sodium levels?
I gotta sit down....the whole thing hurts...
In all seriousness though, who exactly owns Gibson? People have been bellyaching about Juszkiewicz being an absolute fruitcake for years now, and it now appears that its time for a change before one of America's mucical icons becomes more of a gimmick than anything else. This is proof that the dude needs to be ousted.
Also, WTF going on in that picture? Is he smashing one of his own guitars, and why is he doing that? Also, is that a block of ice, or one of those salt lick blocks that farmers use to balance out their cattle's sodium levels?
I gotta sit down....the whole thing hurts...
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Graffiti62 said:
I'm pretty sure the 'built in effects into guitar' caper has been tried before on other guitar brands, without any success. That also damns that instrument to the era it was made in too, effects added or not, are a fad to the sound you want in your mix for a song. Sure, just about everyone uses a reverb of some sort in their guitar sound, but a number of other effects come and go with the times....I just don;t know the wisdom of packing a guitar full of circuitry either, Imean we sweat over these guitars, drop beer/coke/coffee on 'em, tinker inside them sometimes too. Old Gretsch guitars are renowned for not working properly because they have so much wiring in them, what's the chances this guitar will be plagued with reliability issues ten years from now. This model won't be a 50 year one that's for sure, and I'm sure that's what old Henry wants too.
Thinking about this: I'm not suprised if Henry fesses up to this model being his baby, doing a McCarty for Gibson he'd reason it to be like. Only trouble is, is that McCarty was an engineering genius whereas Henry is a junk bond specialist, and Henry has a pack of yes men surrounding him, too afraid to say" Uh boss, that idea sux".
I will add that I am not so much a Gibson hater as I used to be, and some of their marque models are to die for. But if Henry keeps pumping out rubbish like this, it will be 'game over' for one of the icons of the music industry and that would make me angry that someone took it that far, and sad that the generation of players after me won't see a GOOD Gibson, unless it's in a glass case and a pricetag of six figures.
This kind of reminds me of what some record company exec said after a pre-hearing Michael Jackson's Invincible album, something along the lines of "this will change the music business forever". It did, too - Michael Jackson as a musical mover and shaker went away. And that's pretty much what Gibson is working towards now.
I was just reading an article the other day saying how bluetooth won't last forever, since a direct wifi connection between devices would be better in almost every aspect, so I really can't see this making it through the next 5 years without being obsolete technology.
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I'm a Gibson fan(boy) and even I think this is crap.
Here are some pictures of the madness:
I'm not certain, but I think these came from a website called wireimage?
...ok, so that last one wasn't really from the Gibson press conf.
Here are some pictures of the madness:
I'm not certain, but I think these came from a website called wireimage?
...ok, so that last one wasn't really from the Gibson press conf.
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Watershed
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That's awesome...."The Homer".
I do see the connection.
I do see the connection.
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OzziePete
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Sorry I didn't know that Gibson had had a change of stockholders..... I thought Hnery was still staving off merchant bankers and other creditors trying to hold onto the company.
Well, the new owners must be nuts to let this guy still be there, usual business practice is to remove previous owners' management and instill your own..Given Henry's reputation why would they keep him on in any capacity, let alone such a public one as CEO?
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Marko said:
That was officially a "merger": http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gibson-guitar-and-tc-group-to-merge-57074502.html
Gibson is still an American company led by mr. Juszkiewicz.
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Yir. The Danes are still great! :headbang:
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