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SnakeGS

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For everyone who has built a Warmoth LP. How would you compare your warmoth LP to the actual les paul. I honestly have never played a les paul and wouldnt mind owning one but i also enjoy building stuff and there are some things i would like to customize that only warmoth can do. Plus i can build it how i want for around 1100 - 1300 instead of around 2500+

Just curious to know a comparision for those who own both a custom made warmoth LP you have done and an actual Gibson LP you own.
 
I sold two to build my Warmoth.  The only thing that was particularly different about the playability was the bolt on and I got a 25.5" scale neck and that was pretty noticeable for a while.  The finish and the woods kicked the crap out of anything I could have gotten from Gibson.  I didn't regret my decision at all (outside of the regret that just comes naturally from selling a guitar).
 
Ability to choose whatever you want for woods/finish is a great plus.

Only 30 dollars for Stainless Steel frets vs 500 or more to get a luthier to do it for you... 
Bolt on vs. Glue in = Get over it, it's a non issue, and you have better fret access especially with a contoured heel.
I love the longer scale length,  Most people who like les pauls like that 'sloppy' feel of the strings a bit looser but I like the higher tension and the longer neck, so in that regard, if you want a LP 'feel' it might not be your cup of tea, others may not think 3/4 of an inch is anything to worry about.  I can't say anything about the gibson scale conversion necks as I haven't used one.  It may feel like a traditional gibson.

I fell in love with the LP when I was 17 and always wanted a cherry sunburst.    I finally played one and have played many Gibbys since.  Now for some reason When I pickup my W. LP and then go back to a gibby it feels ... cheap.  I don't know if its just because I didn't make sure the gibby's were exactly what I wanted, but it just felt like a more solid instrument in my hands when I pickup my W.

 
Warmoths are BETTER than new Gibbo  Pauls. If you go pre'05,meaning pre swissed Cheesed than I would choose a genuine Les Paul, but still, the differences are minor. What the hell, I still gotta pay 7,000 Custom Shop prices  for a long tenon set neck unchambered Les Pual? W...T...F????
Warmoth. :headbang1:


 
The one I built has a Standard thin neck, and 25.5 inch scale length,  I like the Standard thin profile, and grew up playing Fenders, so it feels more comfy to me.  The body is a little different to accommodate the longer neck, but I find it sits better in my lap when I play the Warmoth than the Gibson.  The Gibson neck is thicker and made out of Mahogany, and I am not as fond of that.  My Warmoth is a brighter sounding guitar, but that works better for me anyways.
Patrick

 
I've never owned a Gibson, but the ones I have played, as someone else stated felt "cheap".  I've never seen a Gibson with a top nearly as nice as mine for a price that wasn't an insult.  I just love my Warmoth LP.  I also like the more "solid" feel of the 25.5" scale.  The upper fret access is better (I think) on a Warmoth than on a Gibson as well.
 
Never owned a Gibson LP, have played with a few of them.
I prefer the neck heel of the WLP. Warmoth will give you many options, Gibson will not give you options.
Cannot comment on sound as every W is different. My WLP is my favorite guitar, it looks and sounds like a very expensive guitar.
 
I sold many gibsons to be able to buy more warmoth les pauls. I sometimes get comments like 'it sounds thin' or 'it sounds like a wet fart'. I find those comments from several people strange, cause I do not hear that, nor do the members of this forum, who own a warmoth (les paul). but the guys who told me that, are heavily dependant on GEAR for tone, not their own fingers. all my gear is geared towards ME, so that my tone comes through best: my own pickupdesign works that way, and the Engl works that way too.

but ok. 

No, warmoth's are great!  :headbang: look at those tops! I've never ever seen a Gibson with a top like that! Nor have I ever seen a gibson with a finish this great, or with a wenge neck, etc etc. the bolt-on is a non-issue. the current way of gibson-neckattachments is just as 'bad' and historically incorrect as the bolt-on version, though I'd rather have bolt on over glued in, any time of the week! No glue to dampen the tone, more wood on wood contact, better playabillity yet retaining more wood where needed...
 
As I've mentioned before, I used to own a late 70's LP gold top, which I bought new.  In hindsight it was a piece of junk and if I were more experienced at the time, I would have bought something else.

As for Warmoth, Even my least expensive W telecasters are much better guitars than that old LP.  A Warmoth LP is light years ahead of that.
 
I've had a couple of Les Pauls and they were nice but I much prefer my Warmoth LP in every way. It's just made better.
 
Not to be the contrarian, but I'd vote a real Gibson Les Paul (my 1982 Gibson Les Paul Standard below). You can find a used/'pre-owned" Gibson LPs for slightly more than what you'll spend on the project.

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There is a difference between a good old Gibson LP and a Bolt Neck Copy. Now as for Strats, Teles, your standard "Bolt On" Neck Guitars, etc...I'd choose Warmoth.
 
=CB= said:
Warmoth Les Paul?  Just a funny shaped Tele Deluxe.

See above...

tfarny said:
Have you owned or even played a Warmoth LP? What is the difference, specifically?

No...I have not owned a Warmoth LP...but I do own a Warmoth Strat and a few other Bolt Neck Guitars. I've also owned several other Set Neck & Neck Thru Guitars (1987 Gibson V, 1990s Ibanez Artist, 1979 Ibanez Musician, 1986 Kramer Stagemaster Custom, Schecter C1 XXX & Tempest, etc), and yes, there is a difference in tone, sustain, feel, etc.  That's my "opinion"...to each their own.

 
I have only played two W LPs, one conversion and one 25.5, and they were both great guitars, and in many ways better than most Gibson LPs.  I will say that I prefer my '06 LP Classic, and not just because it's mine.  I bought it after searching for "the" LP for years, and it has all the great things that I need in a LP.  I will be building a Warmoth LP this year sometime as a gift to my wife, but she has no expectations of what a LP "means" to her like I did.  I needed the body and neck binding, the specific headstock thickness, the binding "nibs" over the edge, etc.  I got mine for 900 bucks (essentially; long story), and building a Warmoth LP to those specs would have run me 1800 or so, and wouldn't have been exactly what I needed out of a LP.  My wife's LP will surely be a better made guitar in many ways, but I have my doubts that I would play it over my Gibson.

-Mark
 
I have a 1988 Les Paul and a Warmoth LP.  Both are outstanding guitars.  I love the Warmoth and it plays and sounds just as good as my Gibson.  The bolt on neck is not an issue, as it does not cause any loss of sustain/tone/ etc.. that I can tell.  Upper fret access is better with the bolt on neck.  I will never sell my Gibson, and in fact I am looking for another one, but I also plan on building another Warmoth LP.

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Bill
 
I love my Warmoth LP.  I am of the opinion that a bolt on neck is better than a set neck, and I love the style and sound of an LP, so I got the best of both worlds for me.  Mine is a little different though because I went with a maple neck.  I don't see how anyone can say that it's the same as a Warmoth Tele Deluxe since if you go for the classic LP options you're going to have a totally different type of bridge that sounds and feels different than a Tele bridge.  A Warmoth LP is it's own thing.  

And that said, I have played Gibsons before and none have impressed me as much as my Warmoth either in look, sound, or feel.  

Warmoth also has this amazing thing called quality control, which everyone wishes Gibson still had.  
 
AprioriMark said:
I will say that I prefer my '06 LP Classic...I bought it after searching for "the" LP for years, and it has all the great things that I need in a LP.  

-Mark

Let me add, in regards to my Gibson LP..."Gibson Les Paul Standard...well...I always wanted one, and, after 19 years, I found one from which I simply couldn't walk away. Truly made me understand the term "Fretless Wonder", heavy as hell, plays and sounds great, sustains for days...it's a Gibson LP...whadaya expect"

 
I'm gonna have to make an LP..

I've got an 01 epi LP Std.. with gibby pickups.. reversed, as I tend to do with my HB's.. and it sounds, feels, and plays fantastic.. great action too.. I love the slag.

I'd imagine I'd love a W LP just as much tho.. well maybe not JUST as much, but only sentimentally.. the LP was my first proper electric. I'll never get rid of it.

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