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arealken

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Greetings Ya'll from sunny ( actually brain frying scorching is more like it) So. Cntrl. Tejas.

So why would a neck play fine on one body andn terrible on another body?

I changed to a different body and lo, the neck has a bazillion dead frets up towards the heel, and on the other neck IIRC, it played like the proverbial "buttah".  :icon_scratch:
 
Probably because the angle (in the neckpocket) between neck and body is different
 
Logrinn said:
Probably because the angle (in the neckpocket) between neck and body is different

Could well be. I think the neck pocket may well be buggered. I bought it used, and theres no telling what the previous owner did or didn't do to it- thats the danger of buying used crap. I think l  should hitch the neck up to a known good body and see what happens.
 
You could also try putting a shim in the neck pocket to slightly alter the angle.
 
well, I just don't get it folks. Neck played fine on a body I put a different neck on that is by far one of my best players.

I just attached the very beautiful exquisite flamed Turtle  Koa neck in question to a known good Turtle  body, and obviously the neck is at fault, which is very odd because it also played fine on the other body.

This is bad news, as I would have rather had the Alder body be messed up than the exquisite flamed Koa neck.

I guess the seller knew the neck was bad, and that is why he ditched it- are there tricks to make a neck play ok for awhile?- like my dad told me car sellers can sell you a lemon by putting sawdust in a bad transmission till you drive it a 100-150 miles or so back in the old days.

Neck seems  straight, truss rod works.

Well, guess I'm ranting.

Maybe someone can fix the neck, maybe its just off kilter by being sanded or something.
 
I don't believe it has to do with the neck, but rather that the angle between the neck and body are different from body to body making that "perfect" neck behave differently.
Cagey explained it perfectly in this thread (as part of another setup question). Here's the important part:

What also might be happening if you're getting buzz in the higher registers is the geometry is ever so slightly off. Picture a perfectly flat neck/body line and the strings as two long sides of a triangle, with the bridge/saddle height a very short 3rd side. Now, if we put some relief in the neck, one of those long sides won't be straight. It'll start at the point of the triangle, curve away a bit, then come back to the line formed by the neck/body at the point the neck meets the body, and continue straight to bridge. Bit of a transition there.

Now, if you press the other long side toward it, you may go far enough into that dip that the line formed by the string touches the line formed by the neck/body at the point the neck meets the body. In real life, that's either gonna buzz or fret out. Adding more relief to the neck often makes the dip deeper at the same time it's bringing the headstock forward, so the problem may change, but doesn't go away.

If you're still with me, the fix for that is a very thin shim at the headstock side of the neck pocket. We want to tilt the headstock forward just a hair, so there's no way the upper frets can be taller than middle frets. You'll probably also have to take some relief out of the neck to flatten it a smidgen. Net result will be lower action, but you might get into that deadening effect I mentioned.
 
I'd like to thank all you for spurring me on to some action.

No the issue isn't completely resolved, but I noticed the brass nut was way too high, and luckily I had a Tusq the same size, so I dropped that in, then I realized there was about  zero break angle from the nut ( this with effectively staggered Wilkinson tuners- the kind with two holes) and a very shallow headstock after the nut if that makes sense, so I put in two string trees. Plus I also put the
shim which was recommended .

Seems better, just a few dead frets towards the heel- this with pretty  high action though. Possible it just needs a level.. -neck looks as though it's straight.

I've done all I can do, lt's time for a tech.
 
I know a guy who knows a guy who's really good at that sort of thing. Just sayin'...
 
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