I've been reading on the web that the warmoth standard tele shape was not the same as Fenders. So i put these pics together to see if i could tell. The guitar on the left is a Fender 62 custom shop RI (binding) and the right is a warmoth with binding. Can anyone really tell a difference (I sure cant)? Just curious!
Warmoth tele shape different from fender tele shape.
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The only differences that I can see are the positions of the forward strap buttons and the flat edge on the fender for the jack plate. Other than that, I see no major differences.
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Msjamison said:
The Fender standard shape is not the same as Fender's. That is, they don't adhere to any standard.
If you're not already getting them every 3 days, subscribe to the Musician's Friend catalog. You'll soon notice that Fender comes out with a new model of Strat or Telecaster about every 15 minutes. It used to be if you said you had a Strat or a Tele, people knew what you were talking about. Today? Means nothing.
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He means the perimeter and you know it.
Yes, the standard Warmoth perimeter is diffreen to the Fender one. Same goes for the Strats. That is why Warmoth now also offer 'vintage' Strat and tele bodies that follow the Fender perimeters.
Same goes for the headstocks; Warmoth's are slightly smaller face-on and slightly thicker front-to-back.
i think it's pretty funny that Warmoth are known as being 'the' Fender replacement parts company when every other parts company matches Fender's designs exactly and Warmoth deviate the most, but if you're really fussed about having 100% like-Fender arts then, well, just go buy a Fender, they've made pretty much every model you could think of anyway. The point of companies like Warmoth is to be different from what is available off a standard production line, so I think it's silly to worry about what does or doesn't match the original spec.
But then this is why I also think it's damn silly to make boring guitars out of Warmoth (or other companies) parts. Go neon! Go for pearl and gold everywhere1 Go for a million switches! That's the whole point.
Yes, the standard Warmoth perimeter is diffreen to the Fender one. Same goes for the Strats. That is why Warmoth now also offer 'vintage' Strat and tele bodies that follow the Fender perimeters.
Same goes for the headstocks; Warmoth's are slightly smaller face-on and slightly thicker front-to-back.
i think it's pretty funny that Warmoth are known as being 'the' Fender replacement parts company when every other parts company matches Fender's designs exactly and Warmoth deviate the most, but if you're really fussed about having 100% like-Fender arts then, well, just go buy a Fender, they've made pretty much every model you could think of anyway. The point of companies like Warmoth is to be different from what is available off a standard production line, so I think it's silly to worry about what does or doesn't match the original spec.
But then this is why I also think it's damn silly to make boring guitars out of Warmoth (or other companies) parts. Go neon! Go for pearl and gold everywhere1 Go for a million switches! That's the whole point.
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Ace Flibble said:
That's *part* of the point. Another part would be that you can build yourself a custom shop quality guitar at a fraction of the price. There is no way you're touching my Warmoth for under $2500.00 or more if it had come out of the Fender Custom shop. From Warmoth, $1200.00, done!
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Not only the fretboard, but the neck meat, pickups, tuners, frets, body wood, bridge... They just don't do it. And they charge a helluva lot. Not to take anything away from their build talent - I'm sure it's superlative - but they're not as custom as you can get otherwise for substantially less money.
On the plus side, you're all done when you get it. Frets are levelled, dressed and polished. Pickup heights are set. Nut's properly cut. Intonation, relief and string height are set. It's a nice guitar, and gig-ready. Of course, at those prices, it damn well better be. You're basically buying 2 or 3 guitars at the outset.
On the plus side, you're all done when you get it. Frets are levelled, dressed and polished. Pickup heights are set. Nut's properly cut. Intonation, relief and string height are set. It's a nice guitar, and gig-ready. Of course, at those prices, it damn well better be. You're basically buying 2 or 3 guitars at the outset.
Here are what are basically the two motherloads for body templates:
http://shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38813
http://www.gitarrebassbau.de/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6&start=0
There's a lot of duplication between these two. But we have nothing better to do. If you want to dig through it till you get to the seven, eight or essentially, infinite, tiny little variants among Fender's OWN guitars, the question starts to morph to WHICH Fender version is the Warmoth most-unlike/most-like? All three/five of the Warmoth versions.... Was Pedro sanding that fateful day, or was Abdul? How fresh was the 220 grit sandpaper on July 17th, 1963.... Did you know you can re-align the ALL-MIGHTY MOJO by sanding the body contour at a 22 degree angle? But it only works for fat guitarists. :sad1:
With nothing else to do, there are ANSWERS here. So break out the calipers, kids! Because once you get good, you can even hear the differences in the ALL-MIGHTY TONE caused by the subtle, quarter-millimeter shifts. And once you get GREAT, you can hear the differences in the bodies that vary by hundredths of inches rather than by tenths of millimeters! And then, and only then, can you hang with us BIG DOGS. arf, arf, arf, arf....
http://shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38813
http://www.gitarrebassbau.de/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6&start=0
There's a lot of duplication between these two. But we have nothing better to do. If you want to dig through it till you get to the seven, eight or essentially, infinite, tiny little variants among Fender's OWN guitars, the question starts to morph to WHICH Fender version is the Warmoth most-unlike/most-like? All three/five of the Warmoth versions.... Was Pedro sanding that fateful day, or was Abdul? How fresh was the 220 grit sandpaper on July 17th, 1963.... Did you know you can re-align the ALL-MIGHTY MOJO by sanding the body contour at a 22 degree angle? But it only works for fat guitarists. :sad1:
With nothing else to do, there are ANSWERS here. So break out the calipers, kids! Because once you get good, you can even hear the differences in the ALL-MIGHTY TONE caused by the subtle, quarter-millimeter shifts. And once you get GREAT, you can hear the differences in the bodies that vary by hundredths of inches rather than by tenths of millimeters! And then, and only then, can you hang with us BIG DOGS. arf, arf, arf, arf....
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Stub, you sort of forgot a more likely reason. The endless supply of 51 broadcasters pulled out from under beds.
Since I'm feeling cranky this morning, I'll take it a step further. Its a bit like the interstate convenience store 150 miles from nothing that sells cold beer. You can argue all you want, but at the end of the day, we all know whats happening.
Any time i see people fretting over the bump at the output jack, or anything else you have to really stare at or be told what the differences are... The original builder might be honest, but I can gurantee you, at some point in that guitars life, it will be misrepresented as something it is not.
I wonder how many people who obsess over the minute router bumps and flats end up ordering glow in the dark finish, or have it routed for a floyd? Yeah i thought so.
Since I'm feeling cranky this morning, I'll take it a step further. Its a bit like the interstate convenience store 150 miles from nothing that sells cold beer. You can argue all you want, but at the end of the day, we all know whats happening.
Any time i see people fretting over the bump at the output jack, or anything else you have to really stare at or be told what the differences are... The original builder might be honest, but I can gurantee you, at some point in that guitars life, it will be misrepresented as something it is not.
I wonder how many people who obsess over the minute router bumps and flats end up ordering glow in the dark finish, or have it routed for a floyd? Yeah i thought so.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-1960s-Gibson-Les-Paul-ES-335-ES-345-SG-custom-standard-Switch-tip-/181095766238?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2a2a2618de
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-4-ORIGINAL-GOLD-VINTAGE-GIBSON-BELL-KNOBS-LES-PAUL-335s-MATCHED-SET-/261157020382?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cce2be2de
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-4-ORIGINAL-GOLD-VINTAGE-GIBSON-BELL-KNOBS-LES-PAUL-335s-MATCHED-SET-/261157020382?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cce2be2de
The Warmoth Tele is narrower in the shoulders width wise & shorter in height (neck pocket
to rear strap button) than my Warmoth Tele Custon when lined up with this drawing PDF
which apears on TDPRI. http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/74504-d-size-tele-body-blueprint-files-here.html
Assuming "W"'s standard Tele has the same perimiter to the Custom.
Warmoth has the more rounded imput jack. CBS Teles had a smoother transition at the
neck strap button later rectified by "F". I Would imagine a monday Tele is different to a friday
etc. A great reference book for Tele fans (not out of the way price wise.)
http://www.tower.com/fender-telecaster-a-r-duchossoir-paperback/wapi/101628437
With so many variables thats why so many parts don't line up.
to rear strap button) than my Warmoth Tele Custon when lined up with this drawing PDF
which apears on TDPRI. http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/74504-d-size-tele-body-blueprint-files-here.html
Assuming "W"'s standard Tele has the same perimiter to the Custom.
Warmoth has the more rounded imput jack. CBS Teles had a smoother transition at the
neck strap button later rectified by "F". I Would imagine a monday Tele is different to a friday
etc. A great reference book for Tele fans (not out of the way price wise.)
http://www.tower.com/fender-telecaster-a-r-duchossoir-paperback/wapi/101628437
With so many variables thats why so many parts don't line up.
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