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pabloman said:
It looks to me like the pickup cavities are straight and inline with the bridge. The pickguard seems to be the culprit. Look at through the hole for the bridge pickup and you can see the masalignment.

+1.
 
Cagey said:
You're right. And that's a obviously home-made pickguard...

No its a modified pick guard. I never messed with pickup location or neck pocket location, only removed the trem cutout and ground the edges.
 
Jair said:
Cagey said:
You're right. And that's a obviously home-made pickguard...

No its a modified pick guard. I never messed with pickup location or neck pocket location, only removed the trem cutout and ground the edges.
I'll see what I can mock up to get that pickguard straight
 
Max said:
Jair said:
Cagey said:
You're right. And that's a obviously home-made pickguard...

No its a modified pick guard. I never messed with pickup location or neck pocket location, only removed the trem cutout and ground the edges.
I'll see what I can mock up to get that pickguard straight

Either way this really is good news as I can fix this. Must be that the pick guard manufacturers have a time trying to keep them in speck, thats understandable. I set a guard from a Mexican strat on it and the screw holes are off and the neck pocket area.
Four eyes are better than two or in this case 400 eyes are better than two. Its just good to know all I have to do is fix the pick guard.  :glasses9:
 
Well, I've got a guess. It may be that the pickguard cutout is not perfectly even on the sides of the trem cutout.
 
Or it could be because you didn't use a pickguard right from Warmoth. 9 times out of 10 other companies pickguards are exactly the same, but maybe you got the 1 screwy one that does a strat shaped guitar, with an odd shaped pickguard. Happened to me when I worked on my friends guitar.
 
rapfohl09 said:
Or it could be because you didn't use a pickguard right from Warmoth. 9 times out of 10 other companies pickguards are exactly the same, but maybe you got the 1 screwy one that does a strat shaped guitar, with an odd shaped pickguard. Happened to me when I worked on my friends guitar.

Yes. I did not use a pick guard from Warmoth. It came from dragonfire guitars. I just got it tore all down and the neck middle and bridge are all off center of the pick guard itself each in 1/16th increments, the middle is 1/16th off from the neck and the bridge is 1/16th off from the middle, so the bridge is 1/8" off from the neck. The slight differences I did not notice until I put the pickups in, all exited and not paying close enough attention.
My formal apologies to Warmoth for jumping the gun and mistakenly suggesting that the problem might be in the routing. I measured it and the pick up cavities are all centered.

I will have to order a pickup guard from Warmoth. I may try to modify the one that I have and see if I can make it work.
 
You're not done yet. Now you have to figure out if the pickup holes in the existing pickguard are wrong, or if the pickguard mounting screw locations are wrong. If it's the pickguard mounting screws that are wrong, then you're going to have holes in the wrong place on the body.
 
The pickup holes in the pick guard are wrong the neck is real close, but the middle is 1/16" lower than the neck and the bridge is 1/8" lower than the neck pickup hole.
I'm really thinking I should just scrap this pick guard and order a new one from Warmoth. The waiting is the hardest part, but I do want it to be right. And I would have to hope that the new screw holes will line up with the drilled holes I have now. Order one without screw holes drilled?
 
Jair said:
Order one without screw holes drilled?

I wouldn't.  You can easily fill the existing holes with tooth picks and wood glue, they'll never be visible because they'll be covered by the pickguard.  You can do this while you wait for your new Warmoth guard to come in and then when it does you can redrill proper holes for it. 
 
Jair said:
The pickup holes in the pick guard are wrong the neck is real close, but the middle is 1/16" lower than the neck and the bridge is 1/8" lower than the neck pickup hole.
I'm really thinking I should just scrap this pick guard and order a new one from Warmoth. The waiting is the hardest part, but I do want it to be right. And I would have to hope that the new screw holes will line up with the drilled holes I have now. Order one without screw holes drilled?

I wouldn't, either. You want those holes in the right place, and there's no good way to transfer the existing holes from the body.
 
Good advice guys.
I went ahead and used that Fender Mexican strat guard I said that I tried and the holes were off. I figured if I'm going to wind up having to change hole location and perhaps fill and drill, I may as well use the guard I have on hand rather than having to spend more money and time waiting. This one turned out nicer than the first on as far as the leather and I used some tiny oak plugs to fill the off holes and  a little wood filler on the edges, cleaned up with sandpaper and brush on a bit of poly over the repaired holes and you can hardly tell, and as someone pointed out the repairs are under the guard so its working out very well.
Lesson learned. Thanks much for all your replies, ideas and help guys.

Heres a pic of the new guard, its not completely finished and needs the edges refined still, but as you can see the pickup holes line up perfect.
 
I'm glad that all worked out. Now I don't feel so bad for pointing it out in the first place <grin>
 
Incidentally, have you weighed that guitar when it's assembled? Or, do you know what that body weighs? I just had to go digging around the kitchen for a braising pot and saw the food scale, so I thought I'd weigh my mahogany Strat body. I knew it was heavier than normal, but I was still surprised - it's 5lbs. even with nothing on it, not even a finish. It's going to be a hardtail, though, and I'm only putting a traditional humbucker and one single coil on it, plus simplified controls, so I'll save some weight there. Still, it's gonna end up feeling like an albatross hanging on my shoulder. I don't know how bass or Les Paul players do it. You wouldn't think a couple pounds would matter, but after a few hours, a 9-10 lb. instrument feels like it weighs 76.9lbs., while a 7lb. instrument only feels like 32.4lbs.
 
Cagey said:
Incidentally, have you weighed that guitar when it's assembled? Or, do you know what that body weighs? I just had to go digging around the kitchen for a braising pot and saw the food scale, so I thought I'd weigh my mahogany Strat body. I knew it was heavier than normal, but I was still surprised - it's 5lbs. even with nothing on it, not even a finish. It's going to be a hardtail, though, and I'm only putting a traditional humbucker and one single coil on it, plus simplified controls, so I'll save some weight there. Still, it's gonna end up feeling like an albatross hanging on my shoulder. I don't know how bass or Les Paul players do it. You wouldn't think a couple pounds would matter, but after a few hours, a 9-10 lb. instrument feels like it weighs 76.9lbs., while a 7lb. instrument only feels like 32.4lbs.

I just weighed the body, I don't have a food scale so I grabbed my fish scale from the tackle box, I don't know if its as accurate as a food scale but the body alone save the string ferrules and bridge studs weighs around 5.5lbs. Ill weigh it again when I get it put back together and let ya know. They say the heavy mahogany ones sound the best and have the best tone, particularly ones with bodies in the 5-6 pound range. Grab a stool  :guitarplayer2:
 
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