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http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201105/6777/Credible-Jerusalem-UFO-footage-captured-from-multiple-viewpoints-Update 
UFO over Jerusalem
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clearly a hoaxer and a copy-cap. the first video is supposedly from a news report about the videos, it show two videos and the second video is conveniently edited so that you cant compare the events in real time. did both videos capture it exactly the same? who knows, the background comments seem edited in on the first video. the duration of the event in the next video seems to match the first video but i didnt try a direct comparison, could easily be done by the same hoaxer, the last clip labled the "4th video" is clearly cgi and in no way matches the other videos, the object seems larger than the first video and has more motion and the relative position to the temple seems to be off, the position may be a matter of perspective and depends on the location of the cameras but i am sure the video is faked for enough reasons, the last video also doesnt capture the rotating patern of lights that two of the others capture.
granted people seem to see weird stuff in the skies, i know credible people who have seen lights in the skies that they cant explain. typically near pine bush which was a ufo sighting hotspot some years ago. its hard to say what people are seeing but im pretty sure it's not visitors from other planets. i dont know what it is but it is apparently interesting to a number of people because between roswell, secret nazi ufo theories, nostadamus and 2012 and other apocalypse theories and a few rednecks that hunt gators or cut down trees there isnt much history on the history channel or learning on tlc.
granted people seem to see weird stuff in the skies, i know credible people who have seen lights in the skies that they cant explain. typically near pine bush which was a ufo sighting hotspot some years ago. its hard to say what people are seeing but im pretty sure it's not visitors from other planets. i dont know what it is but it is apparently interesting to a number of people because between roswell, secret nazi ufo theories, nostadamus and 2012 and other apocalypse theories and a few rednecks that hunt gators or cut down trees there isnt much history on the history channel or learning on tlc.
saw this a while ago with synchronized videos. here you go http://gizmodo.com/5750864/is-this-ufo-caught-by-multiple-cameras-a-real-alien-spaceship
whether or not this video is real, i do believe in aliens. it's impossible for me to believe that there are millions of planets in existence and Earth is the only one with conditions right for life. i'm not saying that they're visiting Earth and probing people, but there may be living cells off somewhere on a distant planet.
whether or not this video is real, i do believe in aliens. it's impossible for me to believe that there are millions of planets in existence and Earth is the only one with conditions right for life. i'm not saying that they're visiting Earth and probing people, but there may be living cells off somewhere on a distant planet.
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Drake's equation would imply with modest numbers that the Universe should be overflowing with life. How much of it is intelligent, whether or not past intelligent life has gone extinct, whether or not current life elsewhere becomes intelligent, and so on are all covered in that. I come and go on what I believe, but galactically speaking, we're in the sticks.
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The Drake Equation makes me a believer of other life outside of our planet. Not sure if they are visiting us, but I can't see Earth being the only planet with life.
The Hubble Deep Field Images should remove any doubt to the real possibilities of other life.
http://www.deepastronomy.com/hubble-deep-field.html <---- Click for image details.
Hubble Deep Field Image
Equates to the amount of space blocked by the end of a needle if you held it up to the night sky.
Then factor in how big the sky is,.....................
Then factor in how big our galaxy is,..................
Then factor in how many galaxies are in our universe,...................
Then factor in the Drake Equation,.................
Sorry for the size of this image, but this view shows just how many galaxies were visible in that little spec of darkness in the night sky. Every spec of light is not a star, but galaxies full of stars, just like our Milky Way. Estimations point to there being over ten thousand galaxies in this photo alone.
Here's another great picture.
Hubble Ultra Deep Field:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Hubble_ultra_deep_field_high_rez_edit1.jpg <---- Click the image for a full size view.
The Hubble Deep Field Images should remove any doubt to the real possibilities of other life.
http://www.deepastronomy.com/hubble-deep-field.html <---- Click for image details.
Hubble Deep Field Image
Equates to the amount of space blocked by the end of a needle if you held it up to the night sky.
Then factor in how big the sky is,.....................
Then factor in how big our galaxy is,..................
Then factor in how many galaxies are in our universe,...................
Then factor in the Drake Equation,.................
Sorry for the size of this image, but this view shows just how many galaxies were visible in that little spec of darkness in the night sky. Every spec of light is not a star, but galaxies full of stars, just like our Milky Way. Estimations point to there being over ten thousand galaxies in this photo alone.
Here's another great picture.
Hubble Ultra Deep Field:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Hubble_ultra_deep_field_high_rez_edit1.jpg <---- Click the image for a full size view.
astronomy is certainly fascinating. but i dont know enough about the drake equation, i dont know where his probability of life comes from. looking at both sides of the evolution argument makes me wonder.
research in protein folding puts such big improbabilities on proteins even being possible that it is reasonable to think that we are alone. ive seen different numbers thrown around but most put the probability of a new protein in a range that exceeds 1 in an number greater than estimated protons in the universe. not atoms, protons! and not the galaxy, the universe! considering some elements have over 100 protons in a single atom that's pretty improbable and considering the universe contains such a great number of galaxies which contain a large number of stars which contain a large mass of gas amounting to an inconceivable number of atoms we are really talking improbable, and that's just a number representing a single new protein! now you still need a protein that preforms a function beneficial to the organism, and the code that builds that protein to fall in the right place in the dna chain. these are just modern reasons why we call evolution a theory. you can subscribe to whatever beliefs you want, ill believe what i want.
what ever the answer to the ultimate question of life the universe and everything is the topics do get interesting, the answers aren't as clear cut and obvious as many would like to think.
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/blocked.html
http://www.allaboutscience.org/new-proteins.htm
what the protien research doesn't address is how many planets have the proper elements? can similar structures be created with other elements? how many planets have the right environment? how long do planets sustain a suitable environment, how often on these planents do the proper elements meet? how many opportunities will the elements have to produce organic structures? if time is fluid is that a quantifiable number? if protien production is a process that is random and improbable for it to happen there must be a great amount of failed organic compounds that never became life, where is all that organic material today?
like i said i dont know where drakes chance of life comes from but im sure he didn't use protien research to come up with it.
but then on the religious side of things, well great life has an all knowing designer, well how did this all knowing designer come to be? would that designer create one planet crawling with life and then stop and say im satisfied?
life on other planets at any degree of intelligence or not those pictures are pretty cool.
research in protein folding puts such big improbabilities on proteins even being possible that it is reasonable to think that we are alone. ive seen different numbers thrown around but most put the probability of a new protein in a range that exceeds 1 in an number greater than estimated protons in the universe. not atoms, protons! and not the galaxy, the universe! considering some elements have over 100 protons in a single atom that's pretty improbable and considering the universe contains such a great number of galaxies which contain a large number of stars which contain a large mass of gas amounting to an inconceivable number of atoms we are really talking improbable, and that's just a number representing a single new protein! now you still need a protein that preforms a function beneficial to the organism, and the code that builds that protein to fall in the right place in the dna chain. these are just modern reasons why we call evolution a theory. you can subscribe to whatever beliefs you want, ill believe what i want.
what ever the answer to the ultimate question of life the universe and everything is the topics do get interesting, the answers aren't as clear cut and obvious as many would like to think.
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/blocked.html
http://www.allaboutscience.org/new-proteins.htm
what the protien research doesn't address is how many planets have the proper elements? can similar structures be created with other elements? how many planets have the right environment? how long do planets sustain a suitable environment, how often on these planents do the proper elements meet? how many opportunities will the elements have to produce organic structures? if time is fluid is that a quantifiable number? if protien production is a process that is random and improbable for it to happen there must be a great amount of failed organic compounds that never became life, where is all that organic material today?
like i said i dont know where drakes chance of life comes from but im sure he didn't use protien research to come up with it.
but then on the religious side of things, well great life has an all knowing designer, well how did this all knowing designer come to be? would that designer create one planet crawling with life and then stop and say im satisfied?
life on other planets at any degree of intelligence or not those pictures are pretty cool.
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The thing about the Drake equation is that you don't need to know much. Plug in what you think the numbers should be. If you think any of those numbers are 0, then enter 0. If you play it extremely safe, assuming no values are 0, you still get a number.
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The Drake Equation is actually pretty simple. It's taken from what we know.
Our star (the Sun) has planets revolving around it, one of which is known to have life on it (Earth). Our star is one star out of millions in the Milky Way (our Galaxy). Our Galaxy is now known to be a part of a much bigger universe as seen in the pictures above. So if each galaxy contains million plus stars, you can do the math and see how there is a strong possibility of other life being out there. Of course the Drake Equation uses our Sun and planets as the basis for the equation, and you could say, "But that doesn't mean every star has a life bearing planet", and you would be correct. But even if there is just one, then we are not alone in this universe.
Our star (the Sun) has planets revolving around it, one of which is known to have life on it (Earth). Our star is one star out of millions in the Milky Way (our Galaxy). Our Galaxy is now known to be a part of a much bigger universe as seen in the pictures above. So if each galaxy contains million plus stars, you can do the math and see how there is a strong possibility of other life being out there. Of course the Drake Equation uses our Sun and planets as the basis for the equation, and you could say, "But that doesn't mean every star has a life bearing planet", and you would be correct. But even if there is just one, then we are not alone in this universe.
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which is why it's all fascinating, on one hand life shouldnt even exist here, but on the other hand with life being so abundant on this planet and so many planets it seems that it should exist elsewhere. then you throw in parallel universe theories that many physicists accept and well if you multiply anything by and infinite number of universes then you have an infinite answer, all things possible under physics must be true somewhere. but maybe we are getting too philosophical for a guitar forum.
i like to play devils advocate with myself on these things, but that makes coming up with conclusions difficult.
