two tubescreamers

[vtpcnk]

i was watching a blues band play the other day where the guitarist was using two tube screamers. but while soloing he would stomp on only one of them.

any idea what he was using the other ts for?

for rhythm/licks - one setting and for soloing, another?

anybody use something similar?

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Were they both identical?  One could be a re-issue or original, and the other a newer one as they do sound different.  Or possibly a different pedal altogether that is just the same color.

 

[vtpcnk]

Were they both identical?  One could be a re-issue or original, and the other a newer one as they do sound different.  Or possibly a different pedal altogether that is just the same color.

i thought both looked the same. could be different. not too sure.

i think sometime back i read on some harmony central review about some guy who said he had two of the same od pedal so that he could use them at different settings for different things. maybe that is how this train of thought developed.

 

[jackthehack]

Most likely to effect two completely different settings; was he playing with two different guitars? Boost/overdrive pedals can be sensitive to pickup output and a setting that sounds good on a Strat with single coils may not on an axe with hot HBs. Xotic just came out with "Plus" models of their AC and BB pedals that have the boost circuits duplicated in A/B channels that are footswitch selectable to do just that, check the video demos out at this link:

http://www.xotic.us/effects/bb_plus/index.html

 

[taez555]

Trey from Phish uses two tubescreamers.    Stacking two isn't uncommon at all.      Set one as a full on drive, the other as a booster, etc...    By themselves they each alter the tone in their own unique way, combine 'em and you get a more saturated drive.

Personally I use mine as a lead boost stacked with another pedal  (usually OCD or DS-1) instead of just the TS by itself.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

I run two OCD pedals on my board, one feeding directly into the other for a cool cascading drive. Have them both set for a minimal amount of overdrive, but with one pushing the other, it's really cool. Much better than just upping the gain on a single pedal. And they are just used for my mild crunch settings into the clean channel of my Uberschall.

More than likely the Tube Screamers were being used to have an overdrive for rhythm and a solo boost.

 

[stubhead]

SRV started this, or at least popularized it - three different sounds, one, the other or both. I think the idea is essentially that you can remove the unpleasant harmonics of one pedal with a differently-toned followup.... plus it'll scream and howl and stuff. :hello2:
Great overdriven tone is mostly in the midrange, and keeping "rasp" or "mud" out is key. AKA, "treble" and "bass." :guitaristgif:

 

[dudesweet157]

Most likely to effect two completely different settings; was he playing with two different guitars? Boost/overdrive pedals can be sensitive to pickup output and a setting that sounds good on a Strat with single coils may not on an axe with hot HBs. Xotic just came out with "Plus" models of their AC and BB pedals that have the boost circuits duplicated in A/B channels that are footswitch selectable to do just that, check the video demos out at this link:

http://www.xotic.us/effects/bb_plus/index.html

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I've played the AC and RC + boosters, and wasn't impressed, especially for the small fortune they're asking for them.  I much prefer the sound of a separate RC cascading into a separate AC (which when plugged into a Deluxe Reverb set to noon, is as close to Godlike as you can get).

 

[-CB-]

Two tube screamers - in series.  The one closest to the amp in the chain is the basic gritty overdriven tone.  The first one in the chain drives the second one over the top when need be.  That is, the second one never really gets switched, its just there, while the first one gets switched.

I dont have two TS's but have stacked other overdrive effects in a similar manner.

 

[DangerousR6]

I run two OCD pedals on my board, one feeding directly into the other for a cool cascading drive. Have them both set for a minimal amount of overdrive, but with one pushing the other, it's really cool. Much better than just upping the gain on a single pedal. And they are just used for my mild crunch settings into the clean channel of my Uberschall.

More than likely the Tube Screamers were being used to have an overdrive for rhythm and a solo boost.

That sounds like what someone with OCD would do...... :laughing7:

 

[Death by Uberschall]

I run two OCD pedals on my board, one feeding directly into the other for a cool cascading drive. Have them both set for a minimal amount of overdrive, but with one pushing the other, it's really cool. Much better than just upping the gain on a single pedal. And they are just used for my mild crunch settings into the clean channel of my Uberschall.

More than likely the Tube Screamers were being used to have an overdrive for rhythm and a solo boost.

That sounds like what someone with OCD would do...... :laughing7:

Yeah, and I have it double bad!!!  :toothy10:

 

[vtpcnk]

>That is, the second one never really gets switched, its just there, while the first one gets switched.

do you mean that the second one (closest to the amp) is always switched on. while the first one (closest to the guitar) gets switched on and off?

btw i have a guyatone od2 and a boss bluesdriver. have to see if i can simulate anything useful.

if anybody has any suggestions on using the boss bd, appreciate the feedback - as i have always struggled to get good sounds out of it.

 

[vtpcnk]

btw any suggestions on using a fuzz with a od pedal would also be greatly appreciated - if that is normally done.

 

[stubhead]

Plug them in all different ways and USE YOUR OWN BRAIN to decide if they sound good
- excuse me for screaming..... :redflag:


(Q from student: "How do I play "Mystery Train"? A, me to student: "With your fingers, dammit...")

 

[vtpcnk]

now i have the bluesdriver set to on all the time with a low growl/volume to use with rhythm/riffs/licks and the od-2 for higher volume/snarl for solos.

works good. i think the mellower bd complements the more powerful od2 well that way.

thanks for the input guys.

 

[Rick]

I've done this.
One is meant to be boost.  The other is set to be an overdrive.  You get four sounds:
Clean, Boost, Overdrive and over-overdrive.

Then combine this with a distortion pedal and a fuzz pedal, and you're in business.