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Treble bleed mod?

I thought it was those old "bumblebee" caps, but either way it doesn't matter. Still fraud.
 
Using resistors and caps from GPF, I have been putting together my own, building them similar to this format:

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Settled on the .001mfd cap with a 150k 1/2 watt resistor (on a 250k volume pot) for a $1.49; -sounds good turned down; the darkness hasn't a chance to sneak in.
 
Logrinn said:
I believe the volume sweep is a matter of the potentiometer. The volume sweep on a guitar could differ from potentiometer to potentiomer, even of the same brand and values because of the differences in tolerances.

But the treble bleed wouldn't affect the volume sweep, just the amount of high end that is retained when turning down the volume.

Actually, depending on the configuration and value of the components, a treble bleed circuit can have a noticeable effect on the pot taper.

If you're taking the time to tinker with these things to get the right performance out of your pot, another good option to consider is the "Gibson 50s wiring", where the tone control lead comes off of the volume pot output lug instead of the input lug. It preserves the tone all the way down the volume pot sweep, no getting muddy nor shrill at the bottom end, and has no effect on the taper. The downside, such as it is, is that the tone and volume controls interact differently when they are both rolled off. Takes some getting used to. It's a wiring mod typically associated with Gibson 2 vol/ 2 tone control schemes, but it's easily applied to Strats, Teles, etc. I use it on everything.
 
Verne Bunsen said:
Logrinn said:
I believe the volume sweep is a matter of the potentiometer. The volume sweep on a guitar could differ from potentiometer to potentiomer, even of the same brand and values because of the differences in tolerances.

But the treble bleed wouldn't affect the volume sweep, just the amount of high end that is retained when turning down the volume.

Actually, depending on the configuration and value of the components, a treble bleed circuit can have a noticeable effect on the pot taper.

If you're taking the time to tinker with these things to get the right performance out of your pot, another good option to consider is the "Gibson 50s wiring", where the tone control lead comes off of the volume pot output lug instead of the input lug. It preserves the tone all the way down the volume pot sweep, no getting muddy nor shrill at the bottom end, and has no effect on the taper. The downside, such as it is, is that the tone and volume controls interact differently when they are both rolled off. Takes some getting used to. It's a wiring mod typically associated with Gibson 2 vol/ 2 tone control schemes, but it's easily applied to Strats, Teles, etc. I use it on everything.

I concur, I've had this on my Bari-Tele since the beginning.
 
TonyFlyingSquirrel said:
LushTone said:
I'm ordering the Stew Mac part because I found out my Grosh guitar uses the same system, and I've compared it's volume sweep to others now. Subtle, but a worthy improvement. Thanks for the feedback! :occasion14:

Darren, when Jay worked at your store, he had a bunch of these on his workbench, I got a few of these from him a couple of years ago, might check with your boss before ordering from Stew Mac, and Frys is pretty much just up the road from your store.

None left around here. But yea I should stop by Fry's and just solder it myself! Thanks Tony
 
Verne Bunsen said:
Logrinn said:
I believe the volume sweep is a matter of the potentiometer. The volume sweep on a guitar could differ from potentiometer to potentiomer, even of the same brand and values because of the differences in tolerances.

But the treble bleed wouldn't affect the volume sweep, just the amount of high end that is retained when turning down the volume.

Actually, depending on the configuration and value of the components, a treble bleed circuit can have a noticeable effect on the pot taper.

If you're taking the time to tinker with these things to get the right performance out of your pot, another good option to consider is the "Gibson 50s wiring", where the tone control lead comes off of the volume pot output lug instead of the input lug. It preserves the tone all the way down the volume pot sweep, no getting muddy nor shrill at the bottom end, and has no effect on the taper. The downside, such as it is, is that the tone and volume controls interact differently when they are both rolled off. Takes some getting used to. It's a wiring mod typically associated with Gibson 2 vol/ 2 tone control schemes, but it's easily applied to Strats, Teles, etc. I use it on everything.

Interesting, I'll definitely look into this. :headbang:
 
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