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with on off switches you loose some switching possibilities, such as running in series reverse wound.  I did it one time and was not impressed, I switched out to a 5 way
 
AGWAN said:
thats basically just 3 ON/OFF switches right?

meaning I could use buttons... possibly LIT UP buttons...

basically anything Radio shack sells that fits in the Route and has the Proper specs...

*PLANS*

Basically, yes. Buttons would work, but they'd need to be "maintained" buttons, which aren't quite as common. Most buttons are "momentary", which means the contacts are only open or closed for as long as you hold the button. Unless you have three hands, that's not practical on a guitar.
 
Cagey said:
Of course, the first five selections can be done with a "standard" Strat switch. Using the super switch, you can change the wiring and mix/match to get any 5 of those 8 choices. Or, you can add switches or change the switch style, and gain choices that way. For simplicity's sake I got all 8 choices on my last Strat using three single pole double throw switches instead of the traditional 5 way style switch.

Pickup_Switches.jpg


you.....just gave me a neat idea for a VERY neat bass.....
 
This switch seems to cut it. though I wonder/worry what effect it can have on tone, and if the lights (all 3 of them) will need an internal power source.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/SCHNEIDER-ELECTRIC-Illuminated-Plastic-Operator-6HV13?Pid=search
 
More realistic seems to be these...

http://www.drillspot.com/products/446363/Ideal_774021_Push_Button_Switch

http://www.drillspot.com/products/42497/Carlingswitch_R-135-BL_Rotary_Switch

though I hope the knob on the Rotary is replaceable.
 
The red Schneider PB above is pretty big, and only shows the operator. You still have to buy a light module and contact block for it, which will make it deep as well. Size-wise, think of a stack of about $5 in quarters, and you're getting close. Then add 18 more $5 stacks of quarters, and you'll have enough money to buy it. Once you get it, assuming you can even shoehorn it into your guitar's body, you'll have to figure out where to get 24vdc to operate the light.

The next switch has a better chance of fitting in your guitar, wouldn't require power and wouldn't break the bank price-wise, but it's not illuminated and I suspect you'd be surprised at how much force it takes to actuate it. Not exactly instrument-friendly. It probably wouldn't be very long at all before you cracked your pickguard.

The last one, the rotary, would probably be ok all around, although I don't know how convenient a rotary switch is going to be on a guitar. My feeling is that it would be awkward, but I haven't tried it so I don't know.
 
AGWAN said:
where and how do you find the requirements a switch must pass to be used for a guitar?

because... I really like these...

pRS1C-2160402_rshalt1_dt.jpg


http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062493#

Haha plus these swtiches, at least the ones ive seen with the cover, are HUGE! They use them in like aircraft and automobiles and stuff  :laughing7:
 
Cagey said:
The red Schneider PB above is pretty big, and only shows the operator. You still have to buy a light module and contact block for it, which will make it deep as well. Size-wise, think of a stack of about $5 in quarters, and you're getting close. Then add 18 more $5 stacks of quarters, and you'll have enough money to buy it. Once you get it, assuming you can even shoehorn it into your guitar's body, you'll have to figure out where to get 24vdc to operate the light.

The next switch has a better chance of fitting in your guitar, wouldn't require power and wouldn't break the bank price-wise, but it's not illuminated and I suspect you'd be surprised at how much force it takes to actuate it. Not exactly instrument-friendly. It probably wouldn't be very long at all before you cracked your pickguard.

The last one, the rotary, would probably be ok all around, although I don't know how convenient a rotary switch is going to be on a guitar. My feeling is that it would be awkward, but I haven't tried it so I don't know.

Yeah, I figured out the red one was unrealistic AFTER I posted it. when I Finally found the rest of its parts.

the next one SEEMS to be a good size, but its total depth is it biggest concern, the Force required to actuate is a good one to. luckily they're cheap enough to just save for some other project if they dont work out. they're going against a metal control plate so I'm not to worried about cracking it.

aaaaand the Rotary switch, seems like it might be a bit bulky for a tele Route. but again its cheap. if it works it works, my two concerns there will be the AMOUNT of rotation needed, and seeing if I can change the knobs in any way.


And very lastly, those Aircraft style toggles. I've seen a smaller size, My grandfather has about 20 of them to actuate track switches on his Model trains. those would fit. but like I said... i'd break that shield of in a heartbeat.


push come to shove, I can just dip those basic toggles in black enamel. and call it good.
 
Hehe! Yeah, well, my laziness knows no bounds, which is why I've learned to use Google and a credit card, and leave the driving to UPS <grin>
 
I was Googling for HOURS last night.

thats how i found the site with the second links... they have a lot of neat crap... Its bookmarked for other NON guitar projects now...
 
Well, with that.

I have finally, FINALLY ...come to the end of figuring out my first build.

THIS, with red Pick-ups. and the above mentioned Switches.

the only decision I have left, is Red Flake, or Bright Red.

red1a.jpg


I think its just obnoxious enough for me to like it. without it being something people will puke when they see.
 
thats really cool! i don't envy you having to cut holes for the switches in that metal plate, but otherwise i love it. i'm sure that would be an easy job with the right tools though. i've wanted to do a superstrat build with an individual switch for each pickup. i love the look! although it might not be the most convenient thing in the world when you're trying to switch pickups on the fly.
 
Yeah, I really want this to be my learning guitar, so my initial set up is basically going to be so I can just try everything I can imagine.

and the telecaster is really a great platform to start that on. especially since I plan to get all the Contour cuts.

And  its so modular I can add or subtract things pretty easy!

I have a friend thats a machinist. so hopefully I can talk him into drilling 5 holes in a blank plate for cheap/free.

I'm not sure whether I want to just buy a plate, drill it, then prep and paint it black, or just do a black blank one. and hope it doesn't get scratched during the process.
 
AGWAN said:
THIS, with red Pick-ups. and the above mentioned Switches. the only decision I have left, is Red Flake, or Bright Red.

red1a.jpg


I think its just obnoxious enough for me to like it. without it being something people will puke when they see.

Looks good. I'd go with the bright red. Red flake is for carnival rides.

As for pre- or post-finishing the control plate, there are arguments to do it either way. Might have to wait and see how cost/convenience/availability enter into play.
 
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