The official KISS Thread

[jerryjg]

Like em or not, KISS Taught everyone how to RAwk! Pauls and Superleads. Period.
Everyone but everyone who came after took a page out of their Script.;
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&oi=video_result&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTgsoJrzplUI&ei=qk-sSorpCdK3twec8-CZCA&usg=AFQjCNEW_fmEQLJGOGplIEsdHe5ZBNCTNg&sig2=FCpR-xdcayZ24bAujHCijQ

 

[Xplorervoodoo]

Not music.  Theatrics.

Pink Floyd was better at it, and they didn't need all the retarded makeup.

 

[hannaugh]

I can think of hundreds of rock bands that weren't heavily influenced by KISS.

 

[jerryjg]

I can think of hundreds of rock bands that weren't heavily influenced by KISS.

your in denial.

 

[bbl4ck]

Sorry, but I cannot think of one band that I listen to that was influenced by Kiss.

 

[OzziePete]

Have been sitting on the fence about the way I feel about KISS for years.

At school, a friend was madly into them, but when I listened to the first KISS Alive album the sound was rubbish. Then came the KISS army and all the hype, and the refusal to be photo'd without their makeup on etc....

Then "I was made for Loving You" came out, disco backbeat incorporating rock. Interesting. Then the slide downhill, no makeup, smaller venues.

They came to Australia (or at least Gene and Paul did with a bunch of younger players that made up KISS at the time) no makeup, very unpretentious.

Actually got to speak with Paul at the Sydney Domestic Terminal as they were transferring off one plane onto another during a tour. Up close, a lot older than you'd think, and was that hair real? Nice guy though, had impeccable clothing and smelt a million bucks with some sort of cologne that must have cost $1000 a bottle. Reluctantly they (Gene and Paul) came back up to Terminal gate entry to say hello to fans who had been waiting all day (not scheduled, but somehow someone found out?), they were gracious with time and signing autographs etc. Gained a heap of respect from me and others, in the way those guys carried themselves that day. They could have just played the prima donna card and said 'bugger it, we're tired and want to get on the plane and outta here.' but didn't.

Lately, with the corporatisation of the trademark makeup patterns, the sellout of these trademarks from the original players onto new players in the band, and their 'reunion' tours that may or may not be the last ......... again, well, that sorta stuff has left me a bit flat. But then again, I'm not a fan of seeing acts way past their prime and trading on past glories. Still, I guess Gene and Paul are entitled to squeeze the very last out of the KISS phenomenon, and trade it as a going business.

 

[jerryjg]

I'll go one further. Basically, beside Alice Cooper, who also set the mold, every single 80's  soignificant act should/ could have been lisenced by Kiss( excpet your Foreigners, Supertramps, and of cousre the Brirtish Supergroups).
In a word? Kiss RULZ!
i think the real end of the Kiss Dynasty arrived only with Seattle Grunge.

 

[smavridis]

there he goes again, put the bottle down.

 

[jerryjg]

there he goes again, put the bottle down.

I was just wondering how long it would be before a teenager came and denied the gretness of Kiss. I didnt have to wait long.
For your infromation, I heve not been drinking at all..well, okay so I had a few beers, well, so more than a few beers..oaky, I'm sloshed..whats your point?

 

[hannaugh]

Right, every "soignificant" act from the 80s should be "lisenced" by KISS... like The Cure, Sting, The Clash... oh wait... NOT.  KISS isn't that "gret".

 

[jerryjg]

Right, every "soignificant" act from the 80s should be "lisenced" by KISS... like The Cure, Sting, The Clash... oh wait... NOT.  KISS isn't that "gret".

Hannaugh i've got a B.A. in humanities from the UTSA in 1988. i know how to spell, sometimes I don't correct it, and anyhow, it has nothing to do with the fact that Kiss IS THE most significant American  rock act of all time.
Until you can sling of a string of 20 #1 hits, or shoulder a 10 pound Norlin Les Paul for 3 hours straight played through banks  of  Mighty Marshall   Superlead stacks, like Peter Criss, or wield a heavy Bass same as the Kiss bass player  , then I think you kids who want to claim that since the computer generation gives them everything they need intellectually, then it must be that the best music is also from your generation, which sadly, it is not., are mistaken badly. Your generation so far has offered little or nothing to compare to the great legacy of Rock which has been bestowed upon you .
To be honest, The Cure and The Clash are minor cross - genre footnotes to history, and have nothing to do with the great legacy of the King of all Music- Heavy Metal- that is Kiss.

 

[hannaugh]

Somehow I think that Elvis was a much more significant American musician than KISS.  I can think of a lot that are way more significant.  You just like KISS better, so you're making a ludicrous claim that they are way more important than they actually are.

Every generation thinks their music is the best.  My grandfather thinks the 40s had the best, my boss thinks the 60s was the best, you think 80s gimmick metal is the best... that's the way people are. 

If you want to think that KISS is the most significant American act of all time, that's fine.  Just don't get pissed when the vast majority of people disagree with you and laugh at the fact that you are obviously wasted as you are posting your dubious claims.

 

[jerryjg]

Somehow I think that Elvis was a much more significant American musician than KISS.  I can think of a lot that are way more significant.  You just like KISS better, so you're making a ludicrous claim that they are way more important than they actually are.

Every generation thinks their music is the best.  My grandfather thinks the 40s had the best, my boss thinks the 60s was the best, you think 80s gimmick metal is the best... that's the way people are.  

If you want to think that KISS is the most significant American act of all time, that's fine.  Just don't get pissed when the vast majority of people disagree with you and laugh at the fact that you are obviously wasted as you are posting your dubious claims.

Actually, 60's rock is the best, but its not  heavy metal. 40's music may be well and fine but it has nothing to do with Rock n roll- your talking apples and oranges. In the 70's/ 80's Kiss formulated and perfected the  metal Rock Show extravagana of which was to become the formulae for 20 years. It's not opinion that they are the greatest. Its fact by the numbers. But incidentally , I happen to love the songs , along with most others who made them them  greatest selling legacy of all time. IMO< there   tone cannot  be  beat too, nor can the stadium rock of the era be duplicated- but you don't know a thing about cranked Superleads, and I don't expect you should.. As far as me being wasted,, thats just a personal  attack of desperation to try and prop your  faltering argument  and  at the same time add some hysteria to it, by suggesting that mine is illegitimate. In my opinion, your overall stance comes across as impotent.
BTW< you can laugh all you want, it doesnt bother me.As a matter of fact, I hope you have a great time. I've got what I need right here,; 5 Gibsons, 2 Warmoths,3 Fenders, a Peavey and a BC Rich,   4 Marshall 1/2 Stacks and some Vintage  Sunns and Fenders. laugh on.

 

[bbl4ck]

Just another typical Saturday night for Jerry.  :sad:
I would like to suggest this site for your outburst...

http://rantandravedaily.com/

 

[hannaugh]

Think what you like jerry, think what you like.  Your opinion is obviously the word of God.  :rock-on:

 

[jerryjg]

Just another typical Saturday night for Jerry.   :sad:
I would like to suggest this site for your outburst...

http://rantandravedaily.com/

Oh right, like you've got much better things to do. Isn't your Lahmbhorghini warming up? Anyway, I don't think they are going to let me stay here anymore after this.

 

[bpmorton777]

I saw Kiss at the Cow Palace in 77' the day before Elvis Died. I was 8, I really liked em a lot but kinda grew out of that. later on got into Yes and Led Zep. I still have a few of their albums on cd and a dvd.

Brian

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Seriously, I'm constantly amazed by legit bands that cite KISS as an influence. 

 

[Who?]

I, too, am sometimes amazed at the people who claim KISS influenced them.  I found them interesting as a kid because that was what everyone else was listening to.  As an adult, I would say they are great entertainers, but musically I don't find anything I really want to hear.  Some groups like The Cure on the other hand I still find satisfying to hear.

 

[Kostas]

... that Kiss IS THE most significant American  rock act of all time.

...To be honest, The Cure and The Clash are minor cross - genre footnotes to history, and have nothing to do with the great legacy of the King of all Music- Heavy Metal- that is Kiss.

Comparing the Clash & Cure with Kiss is a comparison of apples and oranges. Music is not the Olympics, even if they play the same style of music, comparing bands is stupid. 

Like most bands who are big in the USA, KISS are not so big in other parts of the world. Japan is an exeption as they worship anything american...

For me music means no boundaries. I don't care about ethnicities, styles or labels. I don't give a shit for history, legacy, sales or recognition. If the music speaks to me, that's it!