The Epic Fail of CitiCards
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BigBeard said:
well yes, i was referring to the people that say college is needed. i know it's not. but in many fields there is a bias towards it. yes a lot of well paying blue collar jobs need extra training but many will train on the job or pay to train you. there is work that doesn't need college and on a related note even now there are jobs to be had. i work in an enviroment where the majority of the workers are immigrants, polish mostly. they say that in america they make 3 times what they can make in poland so they come here some for 6 months of the year and spend time in poland every year. if a group of mostly non english speaking immigrants can get jobs in america so can english speaking americans. im not talking about low paying jobs either, these guys make respectable money and they were all trained in house, all of them! there is one english speaking polish guy that had prior manufacturing experience, just one that's it.
as far as truck driving, well the training may be expensive but not as much as 4 years of college. and well i dont remember all the classes of licence but i dont think it is hard to get what you need to drive a delivery truck, my friend bought his route and then another and another, out of anyone i can think of that i went to highschool with he makes the most money.
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I think the biggest actual issue is that people expect to just have a good job making good money waiting because they coasted through a liberal arts degree. You have to go in knowing what you want your degree doing for you, and who you're hoping to have pay/employ you (and how much they'll value your degree). There is nothing on earth more worthless than a 24 year old with a "communications" degree and no vision.
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Once we ventured into the college vs no college thing, someone was bound to offend... and to be offended
Not offended. Just messing around. I was a communications major though and as far as liberal arts degrees go, I have found it to have applications in pretty much every position I've held. I probably would have been better off with an engineering or business or, especially given where I've ended up, a computer science degree, but given that I really had no idea where I wanted to go from college, I picked something I found interesting and that I could see myself actually utilizing in real world situations.
Like I said though, not offended at all. I've heard much much worse.
Like I said though, not offended at all. I've heard much much worse.
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My bad!
I just see a LOT of young people who spent 4-6 years in school to get a degree that will do nothing for them. They're usually the same people I end up turning away for help because they can't follow through with simple tasks. I have a HUGE personal bias against "just send them to college and they can figure out what they want to do with their lives." The American lie that everyone should go to college, and everyone deserves it is an idea whose time has come. Again, I'm biased from working with the "Fail" end of these people.
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I just see a LOT of young people who spent 4-6 years in school to get a degree that will do nothing for them. They're usually the same people I end up turning away for help because they can't follow through with simple tasks. I have a HUGE personal bias against "just send them to college and they can figure out what they want to do with their lives." The American lie that everyone should go to college, and everyone deserves it is an idea whose time has come. Again, I'm biased from working with the "Fail" end of these people.
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Overall, college is a very expensive joke.
And, it's not what ya know, but who ya know that gets you places.
(and yes, this is the opinion of someone who actually works in a College of Medicine for a major university)
And, it's not what ya know, but who ya know that gets you places.
(and yes, this is the opinion of someone who actually works in a College of Medicine for a major university)
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I thought college was expensive daycare? (This is the opinion of someone who is doing the college thing. Let's hear it for grad school...)
It cracks me up how many people somehow think that schooling = intellegence. Like if they send their ininspired, inintellegent kid that only enjoys playing video games or watching tv and isn't interested in doing anything else to college, that somehow they magically won't be that way when they graduate (if they graduate).
I got my job entirely by personal chemistry (and having the basic qualifications to actually do the job, obviously), so it's very much up to who you are. I'm surprised every time I come across some arrogant know-it-all who has employment. I am very unimpressed by prestige/titles/wealth (and by association, brands), what impresses me is quality of conduct and skill.
It appears the US college system is quite different from our university system here, but education does not equal intelligence or even skill, agreed. One thing though - going into advanced study of a certain field indicates, to me, an interest to learn and know more: some form of intellectual ambition which I have great respect for. But it's not the only form of curiosity and learning!
It appears the US college system is quite different from our university system here, but education does not equal intelligence or even skill, agreed. One thing though - going into advanced study of a certain field indicates, to me, an interest to learn and know more: some form of intellectual ambition which I have great respect for. But it's not the only form of curiosity and learning!
I know a lot of exceedingly intelligent dumbasses. It's sad. And I do agree with the part about who you know. You find a lot of those people that you know in college even if knowing them doesn't help you for 20 years. What I find really funny are the people who won't use their contacts or feel bad about it. The way I figure, it's a leg up on the competition and unless you're a complete idiot, making your contact an idiot too, or lazy, you have nothing to worry about.
and hence the problems with banks and credit card companies. they are run buy people who went to college for boring, lifeless, mundane tedious desk jobs and hate there lives or themselves or are just evil, so they take it out on the population and/or are just too incompetent to get the customer service thing down as well as to incompetent to manage all the money so they have to steel it from the customers, see how this came full circle!
Update on Citicard:
I called a different 800 number from the Citi website (there are hundreds of them), and this time the person on the line said that it was a finance charge that hit my account between when I paid it off and when it officially closed a day or two later. She said it's been that all along. Why it took 4 phone calls and 6 different Citi representatives to figure that out, I don't know. She was baffled by it, since according to her, it was very plainly stated on her computer screen. It's all taken care of now, and she put in a request to have the 2 months of delinquency erased from my record. Hopefully that actually works, I'm going to be very annoyed if I get majorly dinged because Citi didn't tell me what was actually going on (and actually told me on the phone that they had deleted the charge when they really hadn't).
I called a different 800 number from the Citi website (there are hundreds of them), and this time the person on the line said that it was a finance charge that hit my account between when I paid it off and when it officially closed a day or two later. She said it's been that all along. Why it took 4 phone calls and 6 different Citi representatives to figure that out, I don't know. She was baffled by it, since according to her, it was very plainly stated on her computer screen. It's all taken care of now, and she put in a request to have the 2 months of delinquency erased from my record. Hopefully that actually works, I'm going to be very annoyed if I get majorly dinged because Citi didn't tell me what was actually going on (and actually told me on the phone that they had deleted the charge when they really hadn't).
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You mean to tell me you guys would rather sit on the computer bitchin about things rather than play them guitars you bought....I think your all crazy. :laughing7:
