Won't it go out of tune if the temperature changes sharply? Like say the guitar is in my car, it's fall so it's 50 degrees in there. Then I go play it for a few hours until it's almost 98.6. Anyone know how much aluminum expands by when heated? How many millimeters per millimeter per degree or whatever...
The Aluminaxx "Vintage Custom" #001
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Every thing does to an extent regardless of what it's made from. The "Messenger" guitars from the 60s did it bad with an Aluminum neck. However, it's my belief consistent temperatures yield consistent tuning. If you're playing in a 70 degree climate controlled building, no issue. If you're playing outside in 45 degrees, no issue. Moving from one to the other, big issue. I get on my acoustic player all the time for this. A club's juke box will be too loud for a chromatic tuner to pick up an acoustic guitar, the acoustic body is just a microphone of everything else it seems, so he goes outside to tune where there's a 30 degree difference. He comes back in and says, "Why is it out of tune? I just tuned it." Brass sections deal with it more than us though.
I think an Aluminum neck wood be more receptive to temperature change than a body as far as tuning goes, IMO.
I think an Aluminum neck wood be more receptive to temperature change than a body as far as tuning goes, IMO.
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If you take it from room temperature to the cold, you should let it warm back up to room temperature, check the tuning and then play.... :laughing7:dbw said:
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well. The term Vintage is the name of the model of the Aluminaxx Guitar. I have The Vintage Classic Custom - which I am currently making. I'm not planning on making a couple guitars here - the plan is a history of aluminum bodied guitars, different shapes and sizes as well as price ranges - but we all gotta start somewhere, eh?
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Perhaps if I used inferior products for the bridge and tuning machines I'd have tuning issues. My martin is more effected by thermal expansion than this tank.
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well. The term Vintage is the name of the model of the Aluminaxx Guitar. I have The Vintage Classic Custom - which I am currently making. I'm not planning on making a couple guitars here - the plan is a history of aluminum bodied guitars, different shapes and sizes as well as price ranges - but we all gotta start somewhere, eh?
Thermal Expansion:
Perhaps if I used inferior products for the bridge and tuning machines I'd have tuning issues. My martin is more effected by thermal expansion than this tank.
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I had to grab my old Physics book. It's the CTE or Coefficient of thermal expansion. Wood seems to fare much worse.dbw said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_thermal_expansion
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Nice way to cover up the extra bit of heel on the neck.... :icon_thumright:Aluminaxx Guitars said:
I had a Travis Bean with an aluminum neck/bridge assembly in the 80's that did have some tuning problems, mostly due to stage lighting. You'd play it a while, tune it, then set it down. Then tune it, then play it, then tune it, then set it down, etc. Like the man says though, getting it to a consistent temperature is most important. I now own Gleamo, which I made from one of the 100+ aluminum bodies that Spruce Hill music made for Fender in 1993 (400 or so Strat bodies too). As long as I don't sit it in front of the air conditioner in the summer... wanna guess how I learned that? :icon_biggrin:
It's a way, way-hollow sheetmetal body, built up over a frame of welded internal aluminum beams, with the bridge hooked to the beams and a solid block at the heel.
I must say, to my way of thinking, a classic guitar is one that's stood the test of time, a vintage guitar is over 25 years old and a custom guitar is, ummm, custom, so a brand-new guitar called a "Vintage Custom Classic" made out of aluminum is nutty. I go out of my way to not spend money on products with names like that.... Change the name and I might buy one. I don't know people in Illinois, but your best bet to sell some of these is to find a guitar star to play one, and get them into a few of the high-end stores like Dave's Guitar Shop in La Crosse WI and Willie's in St. Paul. James Trussart's sales really took off when a few big names began using them. Musicians from all over shop at Dave's, if you had a couple of guitars on the wall at that price they'd be sold in no time.
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It's a way, way-hollow sheetmetal body, built up over a frame of welded internal aluminum beams, with the bridge hooked to the beams and a solid block at the heel.
I must say, to my way of thinking, a classic guitar is one that's stood the test of time, a vintage guitar is over 25 years old and a custom guitar is, ummm, custom, so a brand-new guitar called a "Vintage Custom Classic" made out of aluminum is nutty. I go out of my way to not spend money on products with names like that.... Change the name and I might buy one. I don't know people in Illinois, but your best bet to sell some of these is to find a guitar star to play one, and get them into a few of the high-end stores like Dave's Guitar Shop in La Crosse WI and Willie's in St. Paul. James Trussart's sales really took off when a few big names began using them. Musicians from all over shop at Dave's, if you had a couple of guitars on the wall at that price they'd be sold in no time.
http://davesguitar.com/
