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It's a carved top Tele routed for two humbuckers, TOM/STP and LP controls. Like this:

http://www.warmoth.com/Showcase/ShowcaseItem.aspx?i=PT2128&Body=2&Path=Body

So last night, I've set it up and I'm working on getting it all wired up when DOH! The electrosocket jack sticks in too far and hits a pot. Anyone else run in to this? Am I correct in assuming that if I mount the jack to a square or football jack plate, I'll fix my clearance issues?  :icon_scratch:

I'll get pics up this evening, but in the meantime here's the rundown:

Body
Carved top mahogany Tele, Black
Gotoh TOM/STP bridge assembly
'57 Classic in the neck, '57 Classic Plus in the bridge
LP controls
All 500k CTS pots, orange drop caps

Neck
One-piece rosewood VM Strat w/ 1-11/16" nut width
Straight 9.5" radius
6105 SS frets
White TUSQ nut
Gotoh Vintage Tuners

Can't decide if I want to go with all-black finishing touches (speed knobs, switch tip, mounting rings) or steal some more LP mojo with gold speed knobs and cream switch tip/mounting rings. The wife prefers the latter, so you know how that goes.  :cool01:
 
On my carved Tele with the LP controls, I was going to go with the typical Tele input jack too but yeah, had to go with a football plate in the end. It actually works out for the best, you'll notice when you stick a normal Tele electrosocket jack on a Warmoth body the lip of the socket sticks out of the body, it never mounts flush. The football or square jackplate is both easier and ends up looking better.
 
TomPerverteau said:
I don't think I have ever seen a guitar with an input jack.
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We've been over this before. For just a solitary moment in time you are "inputting" the plug, then when the signal is traveling thru the cable then does it become an output jack.... :doh:

Do a search on guitar parts, just about any website you go to, their listed as input jacks...
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Some guitar parts merchants listing it as an input does not make it an input. Sticking a plug INto it does not make it momentarily become an input.

If it's an input until a signal comes out of it, then all jacks are inputs. Are the speaker jacks on an amp inputs? They must be, because you plug a speaker cable INto them. How about the wall sockets in your house? Same thing! Inputs.

I think I get it now.
 
TomPerverteau said:
Some guitar parts merchants listing it as an input does not make it an input. Sticking a plug INto it does not make it momentarily become an input.

If it's an input until a signal comes out of it, then all jacks are inputs. Are the speaker jacks on an amp inputs? They must be, because you plug a speaker cable INto them. How about the wall sockets in your house? Same thing! Inputs.

I think I get it now.
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Glad you see things my way...
 
TomPerverteau said:
Some guitar parts merchants listing it as an input does not make it an input. Sticking a plug INto it does not make it momentarily become an input.

If it's an input until a signal comes out of it, then all jacks are inputs. Are the speaker jacks on an amp inputs? They must be, because you plug a speaker cable INto them. How about the wall sockets in your house? Same thing! Inputs.
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Don't let anyone kid you. It's an output jack.

If you really wanna start an argument, assert that capacitors don't have a "tone". Worlds will collide <grin>
 
Ace Flibble said:
On my carved Tele with the LP controls, I was going to go with the typical Tele input jack too but yeah, had to go with a football plate in the end. It actually works out for the best, you'll notice when you stick a normal Tele electrosocket jack on a Warmoth body the lip of the socket sticks out of the body, it never mounts flush. The football or square jackplate is both easier and ends up looking better.
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Thanks! Just took the jack off of the electrosocket to check the fit, and wow - that would have looked like crap anyway...

Cagey said:
Don't let anyone kid you. It's an output jack.

If you really wanna start an argument, assert that capacitors don't have a "tone". Worlds will collide <grin>
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...and now my brains have exploded.
 
Cagey said:
TomPerverteau said:
Some guitar parts merchants listing it as an input does not make it an input. Sticking a plug INto it does not make it momentarily become an input.

If it's an input until a signal comes out of it, then all jacks are inputs. Are the speaker jacks on an amp inputs? They must be, because you plug a speaker cable INto them. How about the wall sockets in your house? Same thing! Inputs.
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Don't let anyone kid you. It's an output jack.

If you really wanna start an argument, assert that capacitors don't have a "tone". Worlds will collide <grin>
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Not if there's nothing plugged "into" it, it's not.  :icon_biggrin:
 
Before you start bitching about people saying "input jack", go sort out that whole "tremolo bridge" mess first, eh?
 
Ace Flibble said:
Before you start bitching about people saying "input jack", go sort out that whole "tremolo bridge" mess first, eh?
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There's nothing to sort out because there's no such thing as a "tremolo bridge". All you can do about the widespread mis-identification of vibrato bridges is stop propagating the ignorance. Play passive-aggressive. When somebody talks about their "trem", look at them as though you're confused and ask where they found such a thing. When they tell you, you're just all curious. "So... how do those things work?" They'll explain, because it's so dead-simple that even my first wife could explain it, so you wonder out loud "How does changing the tension of the strings change their volume?" They'll tell you it doesn't, it changes their pitch. "So... it's like a vibrato, then?" Of course, being worldly-wise musicians, they'll say it IS vibrato but everybody calls it tremolo. Put on your most innocent face, and ask if they call ice cubes "centipedes". After all, they're almost the same thing in Bizarro World <grin>
 
Ace Flibble said:
You seemed to have somehow both missed and simultaneously over-explained the point. That takes some skill.
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Have you read anything Cagey's posted on this forum?  You just described his discourse sweet spot.
 
Ace Flibble said:
You seemed to have somehow both missed and simultaneously over-explained the point. That takes some skill.
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Nah. It's just a rhetorical technique.
 
Ace Flibble said:
Before you start bitching about people saying "input jack", go sort out that whole "tremolo bridge" mess first, eh?
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Ha! My other favorite pet peeve.

I feel the need to apologize for turning this thread completely off the original topic.
 
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