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Seymour Duncan Triple Shot Humbucker Rings ?

I installed them last night.  If picasa doesn't screw up my image you should see it below, from just before I installed it into the neck cavity:
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It was a little tight getting it in, but it worked. And while I thought it would be a pain to solder, it was actually pretty easy. The only problem I'd see is guitars with shallow pickup cavities.

Max said:
Howzabout push-pull switches?
It's all about options. The Triple-shot rings can do each coil alone, series, and parallel. You can also add a push-pull to make one humbucker out of phase with another. Also, you can just hit the switches with your thumb, that's kinda nice.
 
rapfohl09 said:
Man just let the humbuckers be humbuckers! :laughing7:

Do you actually use the single coils? I thought it would be a blast when I had them, till I only used them to show people that I had them.


Hey man, don't be layin' a bunch of that righteous, makin' sence talk on my sorry ars!!!  :laughing11: :laughing8: :laughing11:

I know, I am starting to feel the same way.  I have two strats, so if I want strat sound, play my strat, right? 
My strats are both S-S-S and I was hoping to be able to get some sounds similar to a S-S-H type sound.
I keep having second thoughts the more I think about drilling three holes for mini switches in the body of my beautiful V.
The triple-shot rings sounded like the perfect out.  But now, after my order has been put on back-order for the second time, I am thinking this might be a sign; let the humbuckers be humbuckers.
Well, my triple-shots have now been back-ordered until July 15.  I'll see how long I can hold out.

:rock-on:
 
Jet-Jaguar said:
I installed them last night.  If picasa doesn't screw up my image you should see it below, from just before I installed it into the neck cavity:
P1010600.JPG


It was a little tight getting it in, but it worked. And while I thought it would be a pain to solder, it was actually pretty easy. The only problem I'd see is guitars with shallow pickup cavities.

Max said:
Howzabout push-pull switches?
It's all about options. The Triple-shot rings can do each coil alone, series, and parallel. You can also add a push-pull to make one humbucker out of phase with another. Also, you can just hit the switches with your thumb, that's kinda nice.


So, tell me how those babies sound! Are ya diggin' em?  :dontknow:
And thank you for the pic! :hello2:
 
bbl4ck said:
So, tell me how those babies sound! Are ya diggin' em?  :dontknow:
And thank you for the pic! :hello2:
Well, I got a SD Pearly Gates in the Neck, a Phat Cat (P90 in a humbucker size) bridge in the middle, and a SD Custom 5 in the bridge. I've got a push-pull on my two volume pots. The neck push-pull puts it in and out of phase.  The Bridge push-pull switches between the middle and bridge.  For some reason, I got dyslexic and put hot where I should have put ground, so my volumes are reversed right now.  This is all in a Dean Caddillac; it's Mahogany; and I went from stock pickups to the ones listed. 

I put the Triple-shot on the neck pickup, thinking maybe I'd get Strat-ish sounds when coil split.  It turned out to give so much a strat sound, it's just different, darker single-coilish sound.  Also, there's not much difference in sound between the two coils of the Pearly gates, but then, it's really voiced to be a humbucker.  On the other hand, a single coil on the neck, added to the bridge, gives an interesting sound.  Series versus parallel is interesting

I think the PG is definitely worth it over stock, although what is really impressing me is the Custom 5 in the bridge. Seriously, it's like going from AM to FM radio. There's just more of the sound.

The phat cat is loud, probably because it's meant to be in the bridge and it's in the middle position. It's also a little deeper than I would have thought, but that probably says more about my knowledge of P90s than it does about the phat Cat.

I was worried that I wouldn't notice that much difference in the pickups, and I'd feel as though I'd wasted my money, but I'm really digging them.

The triple-shots, I don't regret buying them, but I think they're really meant for pickups like the P-Rails where each coil has a different sound. OTOH, I know some people are getting cool sounds by coil-splitting both the neck and bridge pickup (activating the north of one, and the south of the other) so that they're functionally one pickup.  So perhaps if I had them top and bottom I'd get more use out of them. I have to play more with the whole series versus parallel sounds to make a good judgment on them. Series sounds rawer, and louder.

The more I think about this, the more I think I need to improve my playing to match the potential of my guitar.
 
Jet-Jaguar said:
The more I think about this, the more I think I need to improve my playing to match the potential of my guitar.

Yea, I have that same problem!!!  Thanks for the feedback. 
If and when I ever get these triple-shots delivered, and if I still decide to use them, I will post some results...

:rock-on:
 
Great photo, thanks for posting.  Can you briefly explain how the push/pull would be wired to add the out-of-phase options to this triple shot rig.  Thanks if you can.
 
I got a set of these last year & after trying them on my soloist, I got them for all my other guitars. THE best thing to happen to guitars since the advent of knobs. The tonal possibilities are almost endless.
 
zogoibi said:
Great photo, thanks for posting.  Can you briefly explain how the push/pull would be wired to add the out-of-phase options to this triple shot rig.  Thanks if you can.

The way it works is that the humbucker's four-conductor wires attach to the triple shot.  Then from there, you have a two-conductor wire that goes down to knobs (or to the switch, depending on how you're rocking it.) So from there you'd just wire it like a two-conductor humbucker.
 
Can you please dumb this down just a bit more so that I could also add in phase-in and phase-out options to my triple-shot rigging which is in the mail.  Thanks if you can; whoever.
 
nop, phase reversal is not possible with those. I wish they made another version: left switch for just coiltap and right for phase, but the problem is, there aren't that many 2 pole switches availabe, that small, and sturdy enough to withstand guitarplayers' abuse :D
 
Hey thanks for responding,  I was planning on using a push/pull on one of the tone knobs in addition to the triple shots; in order to put one pickup out of phase to the other.  Alpha and RS Guitars offer DPDT switches that would appear to be bomb, but maybe not beer, proof.  I think i'll revert to the trial and error method prior to soldering but I wanted to take an educated stab at it first.  Thanks for your input.
 
I'm going to use the following Seymour Duncan wiring diagram.  There will be no red and white pair emanating from the triple shots.  So I'll connect my white wires where green goes in the illustration; and black will go where white goes.  I think that'll get me where I'm going with one push/pull in the bridge volume.  I'll be back with a progress report in a little while.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_2t_3w_phase
 
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