recessed trem cover

[dalo]

what is the REASONING behind trem covers not being recessed like rear rout switch covers ? would look so much better, IMO

 

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what is the REASONING behind trem covers not being recessed like rear rout switch covers ? would look so much better, IMO

There is this posted here about that.
http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=18043.0

 

[JCizzle]

So that the trem is all the way in the body and the cover is flush with the guitar? How would that even be possible?

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

From the linked thread above:

Surprise! Alternate angle:
If Warmoth recessed the trem cavity, there would be tolerances to worry about. If someone bought an aftermarket trem cover, it may not fit.

 

[dalo]

OK....guess i shoulda used the SEARCH to see any old threads on this question....i'm learning....thanks ccasion14:

 

[line6man]

Like I said, no cover looks best. There is no reason to have one at all, it only serves as an inconvenience.

 

[Ace Flibble]

here is no reason to have one at all, it only serves as an inconvenience.

It stops clothes catching on the insides and edges. It also slightly warms up the reverb-ish overtones that you get with rear-cavity vibratos. Some people also argue that it can prevent feedback, though I can't say I've ever had a problem with feedback with any guitar, even hollow bodies playing with heavy distortion, so I can't verify that particular point.

 

[Orpheo]

just screw on the cover, and take a small scalpel, trace the edges. Then take a dremel bit and rout out from the inside out to the traced line. Easy to do, looks great if you take your time.

 

[line6man]

here is no reason to have one at all, it only serves as an inconvenience.

It stops clothes catching on the insides and edges. It also slightly warms up the reverb-ish overtones that you get with rear-cavity vibratos. Some people also argue that it can prevent feedback, though I can't say I've ever had a problem with feedback with any guitar, even hollow bodies playing with heavy distortion, so I can't verify that particular point.

That makes no sense whatsoever. What feedback?

 

[AutoBat]

If a guitar has had a tremcover on it before (i.e. has holes in the body) then it must always have a cover.
If it doesn't, it doesn't need one.

 

[Ace Flibble]

That makes no sense whatsoever. What feedback?

Like I said, it's not something I've ever noticed to begin with so it's not something I can confirm or deny. I'm just saying it's one of several reasons (whether factually accurate or not) why people use rear covers.
I imagine the worry is for the sme reason some people like to avoid f-holes and semi-hollow construction. Again, as I said, I use semi-hollow guitars with f-holes with heavy distortion at loud volumes all the time and have never had problems with feedback, but other peoples' experience may of course vary.

As far as I'm concerned, the tone and ease of handling are reason enough to use a cover.

 

[line6man]

That makes no sense whatsoever. What feedback?

Like I said, it's not something I've ever noticed to begin with so it's not something I can confirm or deny. I'm just saying it's one of several reasons (whether factually accurate or not) why people use rear covers.
I imagine the worry is for the sme reason some people like to avoid f-holes and semi-hollow construction. Again, as I said, I use semi-hollow guitars with f-holes with heavy distortion at loud volumes all the time and have never had problems with feedback, but other peoples' experience may of course vary.

As far as I'm concerned, the tone and ease of handling are reason enough to use a cover.

Using a trem cavity cover makes you more like a hollowbody than leaving the back open. The difference is whether you simply have an open cavity, or if you create a hollow chamber.

 

[Ace Flibble]

Again, I mention it purely as a point other people cite and not as something I've ever noticed, tested, verified or endorsed myself.

 

[swarfrat]

I'd submit that the cavity is so small, that the resonance of the cavity open or closed doesn't make a hill of beans worth of difference to a body that we're already arguing about the significance of wood choice impact on tone.

I keep a lid on mine because there's wires running around inside. (Ghost piezos)

 

[Johnny]

I'd submit that half the things you hear about that supposedly affect the tone of a solid body electric guitar are imagined.

It would be nice if Warmoth offered the recessed trem cover route as an option.  And while on the subject, it'd be nice to have an option for a recessed neck plate.

Note that I don't like the idea of taking a dremel to an already finished guitar body for this; though, if you're careful, it would probably be fine.

 

[Cagey]

I'd submit that half the things you hear about that supposedly affect the tone of a solid body electric guitar are imagined.

Absolutely.

There are a lot of truths about guitars that have been handed down through the ages by superb, talented, experienced craftsmen who know what works and what doesn't, and why. Thing is, the vast majority of them have been derived from the acoustic realm. The wood species (or combinations thereof), it's thickness, its size, age, attachment methods for various parts, finish types and thicknesses, on and on ad infinitum - all true. For acoustic guitars.

Electrics? Not so much. Mostly, not at all. Primarily because they're just too heavy. A few grams of vibrating string force just doesn't have that much influence over 5-10 pounds of inertia.

Comparing the construction materials and assembly techniques between acoustics and electrics to determine performance is like comparing the construction materials and assembly techniques between a Piper Cub and an F-22 Raptor for the same reason.

What's weird is that acoustic and electric guitars are both called "guitars", so somehow any discussion of any detail ends up getting ascribed to both designs, which is as silly as comparing the two airplanes above.