Pickup, tone & volune ETC............


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Although I have some great links and stuff for this already, I'd also like to know if any people have any books on wiring and electronics for the pickups and battery boxes, basically the whole guitar wiring deal. :eek:ccasion14:
brownsound79 said:
common dude... dont be too techie... its the fingers that make em sound good.. 

What a silly comment, brownie.  If you don't wire it up it won't work at all.

What do you need to know, wana?  How to solder, what to connect where, what components to use... all 3?
What to connect where sounds good, and, maybe a few soldering pointers. i have the Seymour D Wiring diagram for the blackouts, i just don't know what warwmoth wires are what, mybe some one could color code it for me?
For the wires, use black for ground and red or white for anything carrying a signal, which is basically everything else.  Use the braided wire, which is basically a coax, for the output to the jack.  Strip off some of the plastic coating at the end and unravel the braiding to expose the underlying coated wire.  That is your hot.  Strip that and solder it in place.  Twist the ends of the unraveled braiding and use that as your ground.

Regarding soldering, here are a couple of tips.  One, make sure to "tin" the iron.  By that, I mean to put some solder on it once it gets to temperature, then wipe it against a wet sponge.  While it is on and not being used, repeat that when the tip starts looking dull.

Two, when soldering, apply the tip of the iron to the two items to be soldered and heat them, then add the tip of the solder to the mix.  Otherwise, you'll get a "cold joint."  For the grounding on the back of the pots, this is what I do.  It works, but I don't think it is the "right" way.  I put the iron on the back of the pot for a few seconds, then melt a good sized bead of solder on the back of the pot.  The wire that is to go there is separately treated with solder, just enough to coat it and to run between the braids of the wire.  Then I hold the wire against the solder bead and heat the two together until they fuse. 

Remember two things:  One, don't heat any sensitive component for too long (caps, pots).  Otherwise, they'll fry.  Two, make sure your soldered joints are shiny.  If they are dull, that is a "cold joint" and must be redone.

Hope this helps.  :icon_thumright:
Ok, good. Just so i can make absolutely sure that i don't stuff up my first guitar(i'll test on my crap one first as well) just label this diagram so i can be sure. Put it in paint or something using the text box.

Am i going to able to replace the 250k pot to a 500k pot? :icon_scratch:
Seriously though, as i stated in another thread, i'm thirteen, and i've only got a mini theory on all this stuff, the rest i leave to my dad.
Wana_make_a_guitar said:
Seriously though, as i stated in another thread, i'm thirteen, and i've only got a mini theory on all this stuff, the rest i leave to my dad.

with the blackouts, you need a 25k pot. seriously.

I've gotta go now, but I will post later on some things about electronics.
the thing is, the more you have in your 'path', the signalpath, the more the sound will be altered. you will lose your highs, the mids will become muddy, and bass will be loose and flabby. with a cold joint, its even worse. thats why you need to have good pots, good switches, etc etc. thats all for today.I'm tired, I'm cranky, and I dont want to be bothered with electronics.
My suggestion to you is to mount everything (pickups, pots, input jack) in the guitar first.  Then run all of your wires (without the soldering iron).  Just wrap the wires through the pot holes so that they stay attached.  If you have slot of extra wire hanging around in your control cavity, shorten it.  You want to have as little slack in your wiring as possible.  But don't make your wires too short either.  You don't want the wires to be stretching or too taught either.  At this point you can use a meter (if you have one) to check to make sure that you have continuity throughout your wiring.  Then you can go ahead and begin soldering.  Just be sure that you give your iron plenty of time to heat up.  The solder should just melt onto the tip of your iron when you touch it.  Be sure not to hold the iron on the joint for too long.  You could damage your pots or other fry your caps if you do.  It doesn't take much solder to make a decent joint.  Just take your time and do not rush through the job. 
You could also tin all of your wires before you run them.  This way you will already have a bit of solder on there to work with.  When grounding the pickups to the backs of the pots I'd suggest melting a puddle of solder onto the pots and then run the wires into it. 
Of course if you've already done it then all of this advice is mute and congratulations!!  If not, good luck...
PS--you could also practice by using some junk wire and solder the ends together, tin the ends, etc...