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DangerousR6 said:
The can you got must have been made on Monday or Friday, cause the shitee I got was thick as shyt. There was plenty of solid material in the can I got.. :dontknow:

That could be; I have no way of knowing. But, if you read the reviews of the Colortone filler on the StewMac site, you'll see the low viscosity is a common complaint. Then, if you go digging around the 'net, you'll find a lot of corroborating observations. Then, you've got the previous poster and myself here saying the same thing. So, it would seem you got the unusual can, and everybody else got the standard offering.

The point of a filler is to keep from having to put a dozen coats of top coat on with sanding in between to fill the grain. But, they want anywhere from $17 to $22 a quart for the stuff, so if you have to put a dozen coats of that on to do the same thing, you're not saving any time or money. So, what's the point? A dozen coats of top would look better.

All things considered, the end result is I'm not buying any more of it and I'm not going to recommend it to anyone, and many others are probably going to behave the same way. Don't get me wrong; I'm glad it worked out for you. But, it would seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
 
Cagey said:
DangerousR6 said:
The can you got must have been made on Monday or Friday, cause the shiteee I got was thick as shyt. There was plenty of solid material in the can I got.. :dontknow:

That could be; I have no way of knowing. But, if you read the reviews of the Colortone filler on the StewMac site, you'll see the low viscosity is a common complaint. Then, if you go digging around the 'net, you'll find a lot of corroborating observations. Then, you've got the previous poster and myself here saying the same thing. So, it would seem you got the unusual can, and everybody else got the standard offering.

The point of a filler is to keep from having to put a dozen coats of top coat on with sanding in between to fill the grain. But, they want anywhere from $17 to $22 a quart for the stuff, so if you have to put a dozen coats of that on to do the same thing, you're not saving any time or money. So, what's the point? A dozen coats of top would look better.

All things considered, the end result is I'm not buying any more of it and I'm not going to recommend it to anyone, and many others are probably going to behave the same way. Don't get me wrong; I'm glad it worked out for you. But, it would seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
Probably so....Maybe I just got lucky... :dontknow:
 
Dunno. And I'm not saying the stuff is useless; it's probably just the thing for finer work where you don't have to fill in the Grand Canyon. Use a tighter piece of wood, and you may be in and out in a few coats. Plus, they make a "clear" filler, where nobody else does. But, the woods that obviously need filling, like mahogany, generally really need it, so you want a labor reducer.
 
Cagey said:
Dunno. And I'm not saying the stuff is useless; it's probably just the thing for finer work where you don't have to fill in the Grand Canyon. Use a tighter piece of wood, and you may be in and out in a few coats. Plus, they make a "clear" filler, where nobody else does. But, the woods that obviously need filling, like mahogany, generally really need it, so you want a labor reducer.
Try filling mahogany with CA, then you can talk to me about labor intensive.... :sad:
 
DangerousR6 said:
Try filling mahogany with CA, then you can talk to me about labor intensive.... :sad:

Hehe! No, thanks, that sounds masochistic. Not to mention what inhaling that much CA fumes would do to your lungs.
 
Maybe you have noticed that there are 4 screws on the body, were the TOM bridge and stoptail are going to be; this is because I have drilled the holes (I don't want to do this with the guitar finished) and mountd the studs. To avoid that grainfiller and clear coats go inside this, I bought 4 bolts with the same diameter and 4 rubber washers and mounted there. I must cut the bolts a little but I think it will work OK.
 

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Sanding the grainfiller; I have started with 200 grit and after moved to a 320. It's tedious but filling it in black will rise the grain when all the instrument was dyed in cherry red. Som pictures of the process.
 

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Dying the colour. My reference for this color was the original Gibson Vintage Cherry Red, but I think it ended closer to one of the best Spanish wines: Rioja Viña Tondonia. This is good, because it's one of my favourites!!!
 

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The clearcoating it's a tedious job: 5 minutes work and wait 12 hours until next coat. One coat before go to work, another when came back... Maybe I must start another project. Some pics with 3 clearcoats.
 

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The SG is shaping up very nicely!  Great work.  I especially like the neck work you've done.  Can't wait to see more! :icon_thumright:
 
The days here are misty and often it rains, so I must slow down a little the finishing proces. I keep you posted as soon as I can start again. By the way, it's not bad to let the finish cure
 
Wet sanded and ready for the final buffing. I've made two minor sand-thru. After buffing I must check if they are still visible; if they are, I must re-dye and apply two more clear coats and buff again.
 

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At the end, it needs small touch ups and a couple more clearcoats to seal the knots. Not a big deal but a small delay. That's the price to have not enough attention.
 

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I use the cans from the brand Duplicolor. I think they are specially formulated for clearcoating on cars but I have used in my last 4 builds (2 bodies with one model for general purpose and 2 more with the Rally Car model) and it works pretty well. I have found a Spanish brand that I think sells nitro cans that and I'm planing to try in my next build. I keep everybody posted with the results. Let me know if you are interested in it.
 
After 2 or 3 more clearcoats, another wet sand and buffing again, here it is!!! It's nearly done, only remains the ìckguard, final wiring, put the strings and done!!! Some pics of the progress
 

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Looking really really nice, good job  :icon_thumright:
Though i suddenly want a toffee apple now  :sad:  :laughing7:
 
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