Middle Pos. Mini-Humbucker on a Tele?
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jalane said:
i have an entire folder on my mac with probably 20 or 25 different mock ups :icon_biggrin: as soon as i realized i could copy image locations and paste them into the "DIY Body Finish" or "DIY Fret Board" i started copying and pasting warmoth showcase pieces into my kisekae builds. this one was a telecaster deluxe body that was in warmoth's showcase. it's even more addictive this way!
kboman said:
:laughing7: Trust me, this is NOT a nice looking piece of Koa by any measure. It's been beat to hell through decades of use and i'm going to have to fill tons of dings and dents. A solid color is the only way to go on this body, unfortunately. And if it has to have a solid color, might as well be pink, right?! :icon_jokercolor:
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Funny it was the pickguard color and not the guitar color that made it look rocker chick.
So a friend just came up with a potentially awesome and simple wiring idea i could use with the 3-pickup design that could still get the normal tele options i want. He suggested i wire the three pickups to a standard 5-way switch in conventional fashion but then also have a bridge p'up on/off switch via a push/pull on either the volume or tone knob. That way, it would look exactly like a normal tele control plate, allow me to use the middle pickup by itself and with either of the other two p'ups, and i could activate the bridge p'up with the selector in the neck position for the standard tele in-between sound. It would also allow me to turn on the bridge p'up in position 4 (middle & neck) for three-pickup mayhem. :guitaristgif:
I haven't thought of a better idea so far. This makes a lot of sense. Anybody else have any wiring idea alternatives?
I haven't thought of a better idea so far. This makes a lot of sense. Anybody else have any wiring idea alternatives?
pardon my ignorance, but how would an on/off switch enable you to add the bridge pickup while the neck pickup is on. Whether it's on or off, it's not being selected. Or rather than an on/off switch, would you have a switch that essentially routes the bridge pickup to either the front or the back end of the 5-way? that might work, but it wouldn't be an on/off switch
dNA said:
Well, the bridge p'up would be routed to the 5-way, but then additionally would be able to be turned on via a push/pull which would bypass the pickup selector i believe. I guess it's a fairly common mod, my buddy who suggested it did it on his strat. He showed me all the wiring options on it before and it worked great for him.
So, i could set the 5-way to neck position and then turn the bridge p'up on via the push/pull for standard in-between tele tone.
Here are the options it would have:
(with push/pull disengaged):
Pos. 1: Bridge
Pos. 2: Bridge + Middle Mini Hum
Pos. 3: Mini Hum
Pos. 4: Mini Hum + Neck
Pos. 5: Neck
(with push/pull engaged):
Pos. 1: Bridge (no difference)
Pos. 2: Bridge + Mini Hum (No Difference)
Pos. 3: Bridge + Mini Hum
Pos. 4: Bridge + Mini Hum + Neck ( :guitaristgif
Pos. 5: Bridge + Neck ( :guitaristgif: :guitaristgif: :guitaristgif
jalane said:
yeah. that's more what I was imagining.
so would you have the neck reverse wound like a standard tele set? Does this cause any issues when combining with the mini hum? I know the issue with trying to use neck+bridge in a setup comparable to a strat is that they aren't reverse wound so they cause a lot of noise or something like that.
I'd be curious to know if you could do anything that involves splitting the mini hum so you can combine one coil with bridge or neck pups - this would give you those strat-like in between tones that could be really sweet. but it may not be doable, or require more complex setups.
dNA said:
Yeah, i want the neck p'up rwrp so that it and the bridge p'up will be hum canceling together. Most times that i've played teles i've ended up gravitating toward the in between setting, so i don't want to lose that sound as a result of having all these extra options.
The downside of the neck being rwrp respective to the bridge p'up, of course, is that the middle will only be rwrp with one of the pickups. But i don't think it will cause quite the same problem that a neck + bridge on a strat causes because in the case of the strat, both p'ups are single coils, and since neither hum is being canceled, you're essentially getting twice the hum. In the case of the tele, one of the p'ups will be a mini bucker, so in theory it shouldn't be any noisier than the single coil by itself...right?
And i think you're idea about the the split hum for in-between settings is really intriguing. I don't see why it wouldn't be doable as long as the mini humbucker had 4-conductor leads, right?
BTW, thanks for taking interest in this and helping me think critically about the specifics of my plan. This will be extremely valuable when it comes time to actually execute these ideas. :icon_thumright:
jalane said:
no problemo. it's my way of satisfying my own curiosities and trying out new things in a way. :icon_biggrin: The only thing I don't know about the split middle position situation is that you would need to split to a different coil for combining with neck than with bridge, because they will be opposite polarities and you don't want to double the noise when combining them. With that in mind, I don't know if and how that's do-able, or if it would need one of them super-switches with twice as many lugs. if it's too complicated, I'd be considering a 3-way switch for the mini hum: 1) north coil, 2) south coil, 3) both coils series wiring
either way, if you go that route let us know how it turns out for you. if you could get the tele neck/bridge sound AND the in-between strat kind of sounds, you'd be pretty close to the ideal "one guitar that does everything" setup. of course, i'd be going for a humbucker in the bridge, and probably an Air Norton S in the middle instead of a mini hum - but i can't have it all my way now can i?
this topic has actually got me thinking about the possibility of a guitar with 4 single coils in it. 4 lipsticks to be precise. but it's just a dreamy notion...
