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This topic has been started for all of us here to discuss amplifiers, The good, The bad, The indifferent. What types you like dislike features and flaws.

I am a noob and have only had 2 amps and admittedly do knot know much about them. right now i have a Fender Mustang II (sounds like crap to me) and i had a Fender frontman 25. 

I would like to see as many of you post here with info on your favorite rig past present and future and why.
 
Favorite amp in the past = modified Marshall JCM900 head w/ 1960A and 1960B 412 bottoms.

Favorite amp in the present = Carvin DCM200L fed by an Axe FX II.

80 bajillion amps before and between = teh suxxors.

Although, I will say my little Fender Super Champ XD is a handy thing to have around. Does quite a bit and sounds passably good doing it, while not breaking the bank or your back. They're not making them anymore exactly, but the X2 is the same thing with a couple tweaks.
 
I've sold most of my amps- including the blackface deluxe reverb. I just use my axe fx now.
 
I've got three that have been with me for a long time and served me well

Pre CBS Fender Princeton blackface
'89  Mesa/Boogie Studio 22
99 Sovtek Mig 50 head

All tube all the time
 
I have a Yamaha 10 watt solid state that came with my first electric guitar (HY-10GIII) circa 1994.  the pots are scratchy, they don't adjust smoothly, and it sounds terrible without a pedal or two in front of it.
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^^file photo, mine is much cleaner

I use AmpliTube 3 on my laptop & Guitar Rig 5 on my desktop. They're nice to have the variability, but it sure as heck isn't the genuine article.
 
Started with a Valvestate 8020, then moved up to the 8240 for a good few years. When I got rid of that I got an Orange AD30R, which is the best amp I've ever played or heard. Just perfect. Had to sell it for female reasons (don't worry, that one's long gone now) and for a while all I had was a Pod 2 and headphones. Around this time I got a Fender Blues Jr to leave in my band's rehearsal space, which was fine but it had no clean headroom at all and I never really got on with it.

Eventually I decided to get another Orange, but they didn't make the AD30R any more. I got the AD30TC which was basically the same amp, without Reverb (which I really wanted) and with two channels (which I really didn't).

In addition to that, when I bought myself my childhood dream guitar (Gibson LP Traditional), I treated myself to a Marshall half-stack too. The 1960A cab, and a JVM4100 head. It was great, although I think I got the wrong head, and probably should have got a JCM800 or something.

I'm not in a band, and probably won't be for a while, and we've just had a baby, so I decided to downsize a bit recently. A friend of mine was thinking of buying a Tiny Terror and he took me along to try it. I was so blown away by it that I sold my AD30TC and my Marshall stuff, and just got the TT with a 1x12 cabinet. It's perfect, still the great Orange clean sound that my entire tone is built around, but at a bit of a better volume level and taking up less space (I use the extra space to store more guitars ;))

In terms of the rest of my rig, I went from a long line of stomp boxes when I was a teenager, to a Boss GT-5 when I was in my early to mid 20s, back to loads of stomp boxes again when I was in my late 20s, back to a Boss GT-10 for my early 30s, and now finally in my mid 30s Line6 have invented the M13 stompbox modeler which is exactly what I've needed all this time - the simplicity and accesibility of a row of pedals, with the versatility of having 100+ effects in a box. I was able to sell my Big Muff and my RAT when I got the GT-10, as I was happy with the models therein, and the models in the M13 are great too. So now the only other pedals I have are a BK Butler Tube Driver (it's modelled in the M13 but it's not quite right), and an expression pedal to control wah or volume on the Line6 box.

Amp and effect wise, I'm not even looking at other stuff. What I have does "me" to a tee.
 
Ohhhh, one of my favorite topics!
I am definitely a vintage Fender amp lover. I started with a 56 Tweed Tremolux back in 1972 and the biggest mistake of my life was getting rid of that and going to an Ampeg V4. I wanted big and loud and I got big and loud but not very usable unless I was playing at a coliseum gig which will never happen.  Then for years I used a Mesa Boogie Studio 22 running a Marshall 4/12 cabinet with 25 watt Greenbacks. In that period of time I tried a 100 watt Marshall Super Lead and again it was too loud for any gig I play. The Mesa was a great little amp but after I happens on a 1964 Champ that needed repair and I went to the home of the guy that fixed my amp my life change. His entire living room was like a Fender amp museum and when I walked in he had every amp fired up ready for me to play. I went around the room and plugged into every era of Fender amp made and it was like I visited the history of music. Needless to say I left that day on a mission to grab as many vintage Fenders as I could.

I have several friends that are amp freaks who have all sorts of vintage and boutique amps. I have played Selmer, vintage Vox's, Mesa, Kustom, custom built Two Rock by Bill Kinard (not the factory stuff), Custom Built Uncle Spot Amps, Dr Z's,  several Vintage Marshall's, and various assorted stuff over the years and Vintage Fenders are the Bee's Knees for me. 

Here are a few pictures I have posted in the past for your viewing pleasure.
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These ones are not mine but I have played most of them.
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1984 Carvin X-60C I bought around 89. Love it. Building a JCM800 2204 clone now.  I've had the laundry list of effects before but now the only pedal i use is a Korg Pitchblack. (Not that i wouldnt abuse them like everone else if i had them. )
 
After reading Greg's post, I figure I should expand on mine as well.  As Greg implies, the amp is the thing - even more so than the guitar.  They type of amp you use is critical for getting a particular sound.

I started off building my own amp from a Heathkit (<- now there's an age test:  hands up all those who made one of these!).  It was a solid state twin reverb clone, and sounded good for what it was, but after hearing Alex Lifeson I was after something else.

Then I went to high school.  My school had a very well funded band program with a lot of fancy instruments.  I played a Bach double-trigger bass trombone for example.  Lovely instrument.  The school also owned two fender-rhodes pianos, a full PA, an original Music Man stingray, and, get this:  a black face bassman head with a matching 4x12 cab and a blackface fender super reverb.  The super was not so good, but the bassman sounded great.  I was not the amp guy I am now or I'd have fixed up the super.  But the bassman turned me on to cool amps.

I saved my pennies and I went amp shopping.  This was the time that Boogie was just introducing their now classic designs, so I played through those, a bunch of fenders, and a bunch of marshalls, and some old highwatts.  The new fenders were the red knob twins, and the 'super 60' Boogie clones.  I didn't like them (too Laurence Welk).  The Marshalls were 're-issues' of old designs, and I didn't like them (too stiff, too loud).  The Boogies were too buzzy on the gain channel.  The Highwatts only had one sound.  I was stuck.

Then I happened on a second hand Laney.  A Pro Tube 60 in fact.  This had the tones I wanted so I bought it and used it for about 3 years.  After that I got the bug again and picked up a second hand Rivera 55/12 after reading all the great reviews on this amp at the time.  Life lesson #1 - don't believe everything you read.  It's a super flexible amp, but it did not have tone in it to save it's life.  I gave up after about a year.

Then things started to change.  I got a re-issue deluxe reverb.  Then I put a power soak on it.  Then I put a matchless hot box in front of it.  Then I modded the deluxe to have reverb on both channels.  Then I wired up an A/B box to switch channels so I could get a lead boost.  Then I removed the 'bright' cap on the reverb channel. Suddenly I had a fairly light 4 channel rig that had some serious stones when required but I could tame it down as well.  It was great.  Complicated as hell to set up, but it was great.

Then the matchless hot box died.  This was the era of the original Matchless company which offered a lifetime warranty on all products.  I have a piece of paper to prove it.  Life lesson #2 - a guarantee is only worth the willingness of the issuing party to back it up.  I contacted Matchless, they asked me to send the unit in, which I did along with a copy of my original receipt.  Then the company folded.  I never saw that hot box again.

While I was kicking myself for not just fixing the stupid thing, I started reading amp books.  The London Power series to be exact.  There are piles of circuits and fairly easy to understand theory in these books, so I said "why not?".  I built a lot of stuff.  Name an output tube, I used it.  Name a topology, I used it.  Name an amp class, I tried it.  Name a Biasing method, I tired it.  My long suffering Garnet Revolution III (picked up for $150) was the test bed for all of this fiddling.  When I was ready to build something for real, I knew what it was.  A two channel, 30 watt EL84 amp with cathode bias, with additional gain in the preamp section, with the preamp adjusted so both channels were in phase, and a post phase splitter master volume control.  I made it as a head only because the EL84's run pretty hot - even with an 82 ohm bias resistor (I have no idea how VOX got away with a 50 ohm resistor there).  I hooked up this rig with a pro-co rat in front, and used a custom Y-box to engage both channels at the same time for leads.  There it was.

I started making these for other folks as well, and eventually made just under 100 of them when I called it quits.  I also took some interesting amps on trade, like VOXes, black face fenders, marshalls, etc - all I restored and sold for a profit.  Making amps is fun, but not so fun when it takes you away from playing guitar - which is why you made the thing in the first place, right?  So I stopped all that.  The last Mayfly was sold to a guy who does video for Def Leppard.  I have not talked to him in awhile - hope he still likes it.

I loved my rig, but my music changed.  Myself and my musical partner were doing more duo gigs in quiet places.  Master volume or no, my rig was just to freaking loud at the sweet spot.  So on a lark I got a VOX tonelab.  I found I liked it.  Was not as good as my amps, but man pound for pound on quiet gigs it really did the trick.  Then I started using it on the loud gigs too.  It worked well there as well.  I had to fix it the odd time, and it had some annoying behaviors (like when you hit the button it would wait a bit before changing channels, and occasionally it would just completely freak out.) but I found myself leaving my 'better' rig at home and still sounding great on stage according to the audience.  It was then I started thinking about PA, audience coverage, and the overall sound of the band.  With my band, it's all about the vocals - unless I'm soloing the guitar is in the background.  I realized that an old school 'backline' was not the best for my music.  But the VOX was not really a pro piece of gear.  What to do?

I researched everything and counted my pennies, and knowing I could get a refund if I didn't like it I ordered the Axe FX.  It's a great unit.  Everything they say it is.  I use a deluxe reverb sound, and AC15 sound, and a Tranwreck express sound.  Everything sounds great.

I have done a lot to get my guitar to sound like it does.  But one thing is for sure now:  I suddenly have a lot of time to practice and write songs!  :headbang:

Oh - and I finally sold the deluxe reverb last month  :)
 
Over the course of the last 40 years I've owned an awful lot of amps, heavy on the Fender side, light on the Marshall.

To more intelligently try to answer what I perceive your question to be, how/what are you going to be using teh amp for?

You definitely want tubes and quality efficient speakers, but a Marshall stack isn't going to work in your bedroom and a Champ amp isn't loud enough to gig with in most venues/band environments.

 
"isn't going to work in your bedroom"

Not that it stops people from trying
 
Mayfly said:
I started off building my own amp from a Heathkit (<- now there's an age test:  hands up all those who made one of these!).  It was a solid state twin reverb clone,

My 1st amp was a tube Heathkit.
Fav analog amp I have owned, a JTM45 I had not quite 30 years ago.
The last analog amps I owned were a 69 Bandmaster Reverb, AC30 and a Plexi.

Sold them off and went Axe-FX Ultra.

There were quite a number of them between those points. Fender, Marshall, Vox, Mesa, etc.

 
I have a bunch of different amps I mess with.  The Peavey 10 watt solid state bass amp is the pedal tester, turn it on and see what comes out.  Then there is a Hotrod deluxe that got fried, switching went haywire and I haven't got to it yet.  The Deluxe Reverb I built around a Hoffman board is a favorite, lots of sounds to play with, still trying to figure out what I want to do with it.  I have a Weber 5C3 tweed deluxe, it has a grid leak bias, and sounds very Marshall-y.  I have a Magnatone 440 that was broken, but due to a lot of headbutting the schematic, I was able to get it back together.  Switching on it is still flaky, but it sounds really cool.  I built an AX84 High Octane, and that is a fun test bed as well for a 5-8 watt head that is easy to poke around in.  I have a Peavey Ultra Deluxe head (I think they could have squashed another superlative into that name) which is a nice cheap modern head with a good clean, a Marshall, and a modern high gain channel.  I have an Engl Savage 120, which is a very nice amp, but it is expensive, so I got it used.  Very versatile fun thing to play.  And finally there is the Bogner Uberschall.  It does a lot well, but there are some things that are annoying.  It is a green board version of it, and there is not much varying with the gain knob.  I hear that you can mod that and get it to be a little more user friendly, and upgrade the clean so it is louder, but I haven't had time.  Beyond that, there is a ReVibe, or standalone tube Reverb/Vibrato (Tremolo really) that I am playing with.  Fun thing, really gets that sound well.  I built the bias modulated tremolo version of it, because it sounded cooler.  I like my toys, and building them is a fun alternative to paying for the name.  While I understand the versatility of the Axe FX, I just get really frustrated working on sounds that I like.  I find I like the knobs better, and so I go from there.
Patrick

 
My first real amp-cab was a Marshall MOSFET 100. It had that great Marshall-y tone through the Carvin 4x12 I had at the time. Lugging it around wasn't too much of a problem when I was younger.

I think one of my favorites was the Crate V33 I had for a bit. Great clean channel and took pedals really well too. But the gain channel was all mud and I hated having to drag the combo and the pedalboard around.

So I'm currently playing a Fender CyberTwin and really love it. Super flexible and with a bit of knob tweaking you can find tons of good usable tones with it. It's on it's last legs though so I've been looking around for a replacement.

I'm considering the Carvin Legacy 3 or the Mesa TransAtlantic 30 with a 2x12 cab. I've been over to the Carvin showroom a couple times and have been really really impressed with the Legacy 3.
 
I have actually owned comparatively few amps.


My first amp was a Peavey Backstage Plus I picked up over Thanksgiving weekend 1986.  In retrospect, a POS, but you gotta start somewhere.  I also had no idea that you could get a better distorted sound by boosting volume instead of dime-ing the gain knob, but there it is.  It was fizzy, noisy, and cheap.  I pushed a Korg chorus pedal and a Yamaha flanger into the Peavey and it sounded even fizzier, noisier, and cheaper.  Yay for youthful indiscretion!  I'll say this:  I imagined I was imitating Alex Lifeson's chorusy sound, and felt good -- even if in retrospect I realize I must have sounded like dookie.


From there I "upgraded" to another Peavey - a Stereo Chorus 212, also noisy, but had sixteen different chorus/reverb/delay presets that I thought were the bee's knees at the time.  I played one of those recently in a shop and it sounded the same as I recall - only I hated it.  Age does strange things to you.  I was in the habit of running a Marshall 9004 solid state rackmount preamp into the front end of the Peavey, which had all kinds of headroom in the clean channel (as solid state Peaveys tend to have).  I got some pretty solid Metallica-style thrashy sounds out of the Marshall.  I also was in the habit of putting a DOD "American Metal" pedal in front of the Marshall's clean channel.  I used the DOD as a kind of clean boost - kept the gain low, but the level high - and pushed the clean channel on the Marshall into some Hendrix-y lightly distorted rhythm tones.  Not bad, and by this time I was developing a more discerning ear - so I don't think I'mjust fooling myself.


That arrangement lasted me for a few years, but I sold pretty much all my electric gear in order to pay tuition one fine Autumn day in 1994ish.  I was unplugged for about two years, and then picked up a Yamaha T50C combo at Univibe Guitars in Berkeley.  Yay for my first Teh t00bz!  That amp lasted me until fall 2002 when life fell apart - marriage cratered, career spun out, etc.  Had to sell everything to get two dimes to rub together, yadda yadda. 


I missed that amp.  About a year later, I managed to get my act together a little and picked up a Crate VC3112, the predecessor to the V33.  This was my intro to the EL84 power tube, and my love for it remains undiminished.  I picked up another Yamaha T50C to replace the one I had sold, and still loved it, and somehow got hold of a Fender CyberTwin on the cheapity-cheap.


The Crate is one of those well kept secrets of cheap but good amp tone. I hauled it around to many a blues jam for several years, and always got rave reviews for the sound.  By this point my desire for effects had pretty much leveled off at "amp reverb" - so, bye bye CyberTwin (nice toy, but never really got into it).  It got awful hot, and the reverb wasn't anything to write home about, but the clean channel broke up nicely when you pushed it a little, and the dirty channel was really really thick and warm.


More later, kids.  The Yamaha T50C is worth a separate paragraph.  Plus there's the Mesa Boogie F30 and the Vox and, shockingly, the Fender Mustang III.







 
Present: Fender Superchamp XD through 1x15 alnico speaker cab. If you can...most def go with tubes. In the past, I played through some solid state amps...they sounded alright, but it wasn't the sound that was in my head. If your the type of player who plays with alot of dynamics...aka pick attack and volume knob...then tubes will suit you good. I mainly play through the 1st channel on this amp...vol knob at 8, bass at 4, treble at 2. At that level, its got some nice break up and distortion, and I back off the volume/pick attack for clean sounds.

Future: When I say future, I mean like the next couple of weeks (oh the wait... :toothy10:) I will be getting a custom hand-wired point to point tube amp head. For free. It's really an awesome story, but in short, I received a phone call one day from a guy who owes a favor to a friend of mine. So, as a favor, he is building me any amp I want. I went to GC not that long ago and played through a Vox AC30 for the first time...and quickly realized this is the sound that i've been looking for. I immediately fell in love with it...the sound of the overdrive, the chime, the responsiveness. So, in short, he is building me an amp based on the top boost channel of an AC30. The circuit is very close to a Trainwreck (youtube it) or DR. Z Z-wreck (youtube it also). His work is awesome...I played through an amp he built for my friend. He is getting big into building...here is a link to his website (not quite done yet) =  http://www.colossalamps.com/home.html

The amp will be (rightfully so) dubbed FBG for Fat Bottom Girl. Very simple setup...bass/treble/cut/vol. In the next couple of days, I am going to build a 2x12 speaker cab and I plan on loading it with either Celestion Blue and Gold or WGS Blackhawk and Black and Blue. Maybe I'll actually take pics of the build process this time...I have a bad habit of taking pics only at the end...

If there is possibly one more amp that I would want to own, it would be a Fender Bassman. I've always been lured by the tone. If only I could convince my wife...

 
Bagman67 said:
- so, bye bye CyberTwin (nice toy, but never really got into it).  It got awful hot, and the reverb wasn't anything to write home about, but the clean channel broke up nicely when you pushed it a little, and the dirty channel was really really thick and warm.

Funny you should say this because that's exactly what I think is killing mine. The preamp tube is so close to the modeling board that I think, over time, it's shorted sometihing or melted something. It's strange because after about 20 minutes, hex error codes start flashing through the display and it won't change channels anymore. Turning it off and letting it cool for a couple minutes seems to fix it, but as soon as it heats up again... crash.

Thus my desire for a simplified rig. I'm heading in the direction of a micro head and 2x12 cab and a small pedalboard hoping to be able to make one trip from the car with guitars and a second lugging amp + rig.
 
MikeW, since you're in San Diego (at least according to your profile) check out the Carvin mini V3 head or combo at their factory in northern San Diego.
 
I'm lucky enough that I drive by their showroom in Poway on my way to and from work every day. So when I get a chance I stop in and mess around.

I've done an A/B with the Legacy 3 and the V3M. Both are really nice amps, but the V3M is more of a tight-bottom-end-Mesa kind of sound, and it took me a bit to dial the fizz out of the gain channels. The clean channel is a little sterile to my ears as well. The Legacy is just a more brown, natural, clean sound to it. Even the high gain settings on channel 3 are really articulate.

Plus, I've always liked the Legacy 1. A friend of a friend had one for a bit and I got to try it out at a sound check one day. The problem with it was the lack of a master volume and it being 100 watts. Not to mention the huge size of the thing. (The amp itself was like 45lbs.)

So the Legacy 3 is a great compromise of size, sound, protability and power. Although I doubt I'll be using it on the 100w setting ever. I never play anyplace that would require that much volume.
 
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