Lawrence pick up - anyone know what it is?
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The difference is one is cheap production, based on a design by the real BL, made to be as profitable as possible. The other is literally a boutique pickup, made by its inventor, with no regard to anything but quality - BECAUSE HIS NAME IS ON IT.
You do realize, that for the real BL to sell, direct only, not through dealers.... there is no extra markup. If the real BL pickups were sold through dealers, you'd be paying at least 50 percent more. In effect, he's a small shop, makes his stuff, employs only a few folks, and sells what he can - and lets his inventions pay the payroll, rent, lights, and groceries. SuperHumbucker - his. Blade design pickups - his. Noiseless pickups for Fender - his. Gibson P-100 pickup (and all stacked humbuckers) - his. Offset coil pickups - his. Cross type magnetic circuit - his. Lower impedance, but high output pickups - his. Use of inductors in a variable circuit for tone control in a guitar - his. And the list goes on and on.
You do realize, that for the real BL to sell, direct only, not through dealers.... there is no extra markup. If the real BL pickups were sold through dealers, you'd be paying at least 50 percent more. In effect, he's a small shop, makes his stuff, employs only a few folks, and sells what he can - and lets his inventions pay the payroll, rent, lights, and groceries. SuperHumbucker - his. Blade design pickups - his. Noiseless pickups for Fender - his. Gibson P-100 pickup (and all stacked humbuckers) - his. Offset coil pickups - his. Cross type magnetic circuit - his. Lower impedance, but high output pickups - his. Use of inductors in a variable circuit for tone control in a guitar - his. And the list goes on and on.
http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/Pickup_Window/Introduction.htm
http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/Ordering.htm
Besides being more of an inventor than a marketing guy, he's not a web page designer either... in fact he's not really into "business" as it's meant nowadays, (wife) Becky actually tries to keep him off the phone, cause he'll talk wiring & amps & speakers for hours and she's thinking like, gee, I wonder if anybody's trying to call? :laughing7: Figure out what you want as best you can from the website, then write it down then call, cause Bill will confuse the heck out of you once he starts talking. His first language is German and his second language is Engineerish and English came in a distant third. Fun bunch though!
There's a lot of explanations of tonal choices from wiring variants, power, string spacing etc. on the boards. Or you could just ask Bill! :toothy12: :help: :blob7:
http://p082.ezboard.com/Gate/fguitarsbyfenderfrm8
http://p082.ezboard.com/L500s-options-and-characteristics/fguitarsbyfenderfrm8.showMessage?topicID=301.topic
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just an inductor, many uses,
can be used in series with a cap and resistor(optional) to ground for a mid cut on the tone. CB did this on Vic's thinline if i recall
can go strait to ground which will reduce the total inductance and rasie the resonant peak. this will give more highs/presance.
can go in series with pup to give a lower resonant peak, can give a thin single coil more mids or lows, maybe close to a p-90 , don't get me wrong only a p-90 sounds like a p-90 but an inductor in series can fatten things up.
maybe CB will have more to add.
i plan to order a couple for experementation, and some noiseless singles, i'm quite fond of the fender ones i put in a freinds guitar but i trust the lawrence ones to sound even better. the guy seems to know a little too much about magnets, hopefully alittle more than the major companies who have coppied him over the years.
can be used in series with a cap and resistor(optional) to ground for a mid cut on the tone. CB did this on Vic's thinline if i recall
can go strait to ground which will reduce the total inductance and rasie the resonant peak. this will give more highs/presance.
can go in series with pup to give a lower resonant peak, can give a thin single coil more mids or lows, maybe close to a p-90 , don't get me wrong only a p-90 sounds like a p-90 but an inductor in series can fatten things up.
maybe CB will have more to add.
i plan to order a couple for experementation, and some noiseless singles, i'm quite fond of the fender ones i put in a freinds guitar but i trust the lawrence ones to sound even better. the guy seems to know a little too much about magnets, hopefully alittle more than the major companies who have coppied him over the years.
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OzziePete
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The man Bill Lawrence would frighten anyone - but an electronics engineer - with what he knows and can design.
I haven't spoken to him, thankfully, but his comments on his website are frighteningly intelligent. I have also seen comments from others in other forums who have said that their head was spinning after speaking to him :toothy12:
He's not much of a fan about the stated specs of other pickup manufacturers and their marketing/hyping of DC 'power' ratings and so on.
Rather, Bill's more into the inductance of a pickup.
He has changed his product naming (products still the same but with different model numbers) in recent times, and I think he still does each product in various ratings (Henries). His website carries a link to a forum which is dedicated to Bill Lawrence (Wilde Gate). Click on his products and you will go straight to the Wilde Gate forum's thread about that product and the various ratings it has.
It's best, if technical talk confuses you, to acquaint yourself with these products and the possible variations before ringing them up, and be very sure about what sort of tone you are seeking.
I haven't spoken to him, thankfully, but his comments on his website are frighteningly intelligent. I have also seen comments from others in other forums who have said that their head was spinning after speaking to him :toothy12:
He's not much of a fan about the stated specs of other pickup manufacturers and their marketing/hyping of DC 'power' ratings and so on.
Rather, Bill's more into the inductance of a pickup.
He has changed his product naming (products still the same but with different model numbers) in recent times, and I think he still does each product in various ratings (Henries). His website carries a link to a forum which is dedicated to Bill Lawrence (Wilde Gate). Click on his products and you will go straight to the Wilde Gate forum's thread about that product and the various ratings it has.
It's best, if technical talk confuses you, to acquaint yourself with these products and the possible variations before ringing them up, and be very sure about what sort of tone you are seeking.
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OK - I think I finally got an answer to my mystery today:
I posted about this at harmony central and like a week later I got a reply from someone with 3 posts... he said maybe it's this:
http://www.gearhounds.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=444
and damn if that don't look like it - so I searched a little and found this one:
http://www.monstermarketplace.com/General/Landing3226a445.html - - so I think that may be the one, though actually I don't have anyway of knowing if it's the neck or bridge really - though mine has always been in the neck position and sounds real nice there.
So it's the FAKE... and it's just like a fake L-500XL or L-500R but with a cover - and they call it a L-900 instead.
So you can actually still buy these and I must admit they sound really nice to me as a neck pickup - not sure about the bridge though. For the price I might get a set of these some day,
I posted about this at harmony central and like a week later I got a reply from someone with 3 posts... he said maybe it's this:
http://www.gearhounds.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=444
and damn if that don't look like it - so I searched a little and found this one:
http://www.monstermarketplace.com/General/Landing3226a445.html - - so I think that may be the one, though actually I don't have anyway of knowing if it's the neck or bridge really - though mine has always been in the neck position and sounds real nice there.
So it's the FAKE... and it's just like a fake L-500XL or L-500R but with a cover - and they call it a L-900 instead.
So you can actually still buy these and I must admit they sound really nice to me as a neck pickup - not sure about the bridge though. For the price I might get a set of these some day,
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