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Can anyone wire this for me?
I have a telecaster with 2 p-rails
2xvol 1xtone 3/5way switch pots with push pulls and maybe a rotary knob if that is suggested
coil splitting series and parallel options
Can anyone help?
 
seymour duncan has several p-rail wiring diagrams. None of them fit your criteria exactly, but it wouldn't be difficult to make a frankendiagram out the parts of the diagrams that you like.
 
You mean the same diagram I did before, but with the push/pulls changed to do the series/parallel/north coil/south coil thing for both pickups at the same time?

I can draw you another diagram for that.
 
Yes That would work I've cone to realize there is no point for me to over complicate things now. I would just like to be able to get series and parallel as well as have accses to of the coils and if you feel like throwing in some wiring digeam with a rotary switch for some special combos I wouldn't mind thanx again
 
Nicholasdaniel said:
Yes That would work I've cone to realize there is no point for me to over complicate things now. I would just like to be able to get series and parallel as well as have accses to of the coils and if you feel like throwing in some wiring digeam with a rotary switch for some special combos I wouldn't mind thanx again
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What is the rotary switch for?

You already have the pickup selector switch and push/pulls, what more do you want the setup to do?
 
with two mini switches you can have them both down, meaning the pickups are in series, one up to select a coil, the opposite one up to select a different coil, or both up for parallel. If you wanted individual switching for each pickup, then you would need to double this, therefore requiring you to have four switches. The easiest layout for this i think would be les paul wiring (two tones, two volumes) and that way you could have all four switches in it's own push pull pot.
 
Nicholasdaniel said:
Like say if i wanted to combine like one coil from the neck pickup with the full humbucker with the bridge?
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What did you want each position to be?

This is going to get ridiculously overcomplicated, but I'll see if it's possible or not and get you the diagram.

IMHO, I would suggest that you just skip the rotary switch.
 
If I skip the switch what options would I have?
Because in all honesty I agree with you but since they are p-rails and not "regular" Hb i do want to take advantage of their versatility
Like with the push pulls and switch would i be able to say combine the inner coils or something?
 
Nicholasdaniel said:
If I skip the switch what options would I have?
Because in all honesty I agree with you but since they are p-rails and not "regular" Hb i do want to take advantage of their versatility
Like with the push pulls and switch would i be able to say combine the inner coils or something?
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Personally, I would do two 4 position rotary switches (one for each pickup) for series-parallel-north coil-south coil.

That would ensure the simplest possible layout, with the most possible options.

The problem is that you might run into problems getting four pots on the guitar if it's on a Tele control plate?

Perhaps if you stacked the volume and tone controls on a concentric pot and opted for a Gibson style toggle switch or another rotary switch instead of a blade switch, you could fit everything on the control plate.
 
This is the best i can do for a top routed tele...

Standard looking tele setup: master tone, master volume, 3 way switch. This will let you put two switches in there as push-pull pots. You will have series, parallel, p-90, and rail, but you cannot have the two pickups on different settings from each other.
 
I am but a simple man, and a creature of habit.  When I ask this question, bear in mind that in my whole life I've never used anything more sophisticated than a two-HB guitar with a three way switch on the one hand, and a standard strat with 5-way switch (and a full-time ON switch for the bridge pup, very sophisticated) on the other, and that my effects rig consists of a fifteen-foot cable and on-board amp reverb.  Just so you you know where my biases are.

Do you really expect you'll get usable tones with all those options?  By usable, I mean pickup settings you'll actually go to on the fly when you play live, or that will make sense in the context of recording, rather than just another in the endless series of "Wow, THAT sounds cool, too!" moments we all love to experience.  Don't get me wrong - I love those moments, and I go fool around in the guitar stores to experience them.  Just wondering if you're pursuing the broad variety of switching options simply because it CAN be done, rather than because it needs doing.
 
bagman67 said:
I am but a simple man, and a creature of habit.  When I ask this question, bear in mind that in my whole life I've never used anything more sophisticated than a two-HB guitar with a three way switch on the one hand, and a standard strat with 5-way switch (and a full-time ON switch for the bridge pup, very sophisticated) on the other, and that my effects rig consists of a fifteen-foot cable and on-board amp reverb.  Just so you you know where my biases are.

Do you really expect you'll get usable tones with all those options?  By usable, I mean pickup settings you'll actually go to on the fly when you play live, or that will make sense in the context of recording, rather than just another in the endless series of "Wow, THAT sounds cool, too!" moments we all love to experience.  Don't get me wrong - I love those moments, and I go fool around in the guitar stores to experience them.  Just wondering if you're pursuing the broad variety of switching options simply because it CAN be done, rather than because it needs doing.
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You make a good point and I have heard this before so I think I will concede this point without making it too complicated

This was my original plan 2x vol 1x tone 3 way switch
however a push pull would be on the neck volume and on the master tone ( so the bridge pot would be hotter which was a suggestion from my guitar teacher) and just have the ability to get series parallel coils and p-90 tones line6man or rockskate4x  think you can do this?
 
To tell you the truth, I don't see your idea fitting into a tele control plate. To be able to select series, parallel, p-90, or rail, for each pickup individual you must have a MINIMUM of four switches. Those switches will not fit on a plate with two volumes a tone, and a three way. So it boils down to two choices.

We can either simplify the number of options so that everything can fit under that control plate,

or,

you can have the top route made larger and fit a tele deluxe or similar style pickgaurd over it. You would have plenty of space for your idea to work.
 
Oh yeah, there's these...
http://www.seymourduncan.com/images/products/electric/humbuckers/triple_shot_ring_blk_crm.jpg

If you are mounting the bridge pickup in a tele humbucker bridge, I don't know if you could fit a triple shot ring over the top, but just using one on the neck pickup would free up two switches from being under the control plate.

I have seen three pots and a three way switch mounted on a control plate. That's your two volumes, and one tone, obviously, and if you used a triple shot for your neck pickup you could have the remaining switches in push pull pots for your bridge pickup.

If you can use a pair of triple shots everything else will fit with ease.
 
If seen this diagram the only thing missing is a volume for each pickup if all else fails i would just stick with this
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2_prails_1v_1t_tspp
I don't understand how it works but this is basically what I want with out separate volume pots correct?
 
Nicholasdaniel said:
If seen this diagram the only thing missing is a volume for each pickup if all else fails i would just stick with this
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2_prails_1v_1t_tspp
I don't understand how it works but this is basically what I want with out separate volume pots correct?
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What don't you understand about how it works?  :icon_scratch:

If that's what you want, you easily add a second volume pot to it.
 
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