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So I was playing today and moving around the fretboard when I noticed this horrid "harmonic resonance" eminating from my G note (3rd fret) on my high E string.  Even after I'd removed my finger from the fretboard entirely, the "harmonic" was still ringing.  It was also drowning out other notes on the same string, especially the F and F# notes.

I tried switching pickups but that didn't help any, I was still getting this harmonic that just refused to die.  Any ideas what could cause this?  :tard:
 
Altar said:
Could be coming from behind the bridge/nut. Mute it with foam strips?

I think you may be spot-on.  I've had this annoying "ping" or "twang" coming eminating from the high E since Day 1.  I've tried putting some soap or wax in the "cut," plus shims under it, took two or three swipes with a small file across it in case there was a burr, raised action, lowered action, swapped string gauges, etc.
 
Cagey said:
Vibrato springs? Truss rod?

I don't think so, Cagey.  The vibrations aren't going through the body, they're being heard at the neck.  I guess it's possible it could be a truss rod, but how would I know?  It's only occurring on this one fret.
 
Is the headstock angled or straight? If it's straight, push down on the string behind the nut. If that stops the ringing..

*Cough*Tryastringtree.*Cough*
 
Altar said:
Is the headstock angled or straight? If it's straight, push down on the string behind the nut. If that stops the ringing..

*Cough*Tryastringtree.*Cough*

The headstock is straight.  I am using a string tree with it.
 
I've encountered all three, putting piezos on made them all  more noticeable.

I took a vintage 1980's sock tie and cut it up and wove it between the strings behind the nut, the tremolo springs, and then took the springs out and stuffed it through the center of the spring coils. (Eventually removed the springs alltogether).

But by far the most baffling was the truss rod rattling loose in its channel.  Its more of a buzz/rattle than a note. That should die instantly thoough once there are no springs to drive it. So I'm going with 'behind the nut'.  Trem springs (or Sproings as I started calling them once I put piezos in the mix) are kind of like a really bad spring reverb.
 
Try changing the mass of the neck.

Get of these, or fabricate your own.
DV019_Jpg_Regular_420270_brass.jpg
 
Daze of October said:
line6man said:
Try changing the mass of the neck.

Get of these, or fabricate your own.
DV019_Jpg_Regular_420270_brass.jpg

What do you mean by changing the mass of my neck?  And what is that thing?  :help:

The resonance of the neck will change if you increase or decrease its mass.

These things are marketed to increase sustain, and that's debatable, but that doesn't really matter in this application. Just as long as you can change the way the neck resonates.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/fender-fatfinger-guitar-sustain-enhancer
 
line6man said:
Daze of October said:
line6man said:
Try changing the mass of the neck.

Get of these, or fabricate your own.
DV019_Jpg_Regular_420270_brass.jpg

What do you mean by changing the mass of my neck?  And what is that thing?  :help:

The resonance of the neck will change if you increase or decrease its mass.

These things are marketed to increase sustain, and that's debatable, but that doesn't really matter in this application. Just as long as you can change the way the neck resonates.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/fender-fatfinger-guitar-sustain-enhancer

Thanks for the info.  I'll look into this thing. 
 
When I used to have a set of Lollar Imperial humbuckers that came with metal covers, I would get a reverbish sound sometimes. When I started using Emgs in the guitar it went away.  :dontknow:
 
Well, earlier in this topic, I believe someone posted a suggestion that the resonance could be coming from the bridge/tremolo or the truss rod.  Here's what I've done this morning...

- Unlocked the locking nut, pressed behind the nut while striking the string/note and nothing changed.

- With the nut unlocked I very slightly depressed the tremolo bar and the resonance subsided until I let go of it.

- I tried putting my fingers on the tremolo springs after striking the note and the resonance continued.

- I tightened/loosened the truss rod and the resonance continued.

The only thing I can positively say about this is that the sustain is awesome! :laughing11:

I'm stumped here.  There's a nasty ping that I've constantly gotten from the high E string, which I'm just about certain is the nut.  None of my other guitars "ping" like this one does on the high E.

Given I slightly depressed the tremolo and the resonance subsided, are there any other suggestions as to things I could try?  Let's say the bridge/tremolo is the culprit, what do I do?
 
Could one or more strings be encountering some funkiness as they break over the saddles?  Maybe break out the magnifying visor, and get in there with a needle file and clean up the channel the string runs through between the clamp and the actual break point.
 
Bagman67 said:
Could one or more strings be encountering some funkiness as they break over the saddles?  Maybe break out the magnifying visor, and get in there with a needle file and clean up the channel the string runs through between the clamp and the actual break point.

I already tried doing a little bit of filing inside the "slot" where the string goes. :(
 
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