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That's awesome, I wish I could play like that, Imagine how good she will be as an adult or older teen, That is if she keeps the passion

 
Her playing is phenomenal, there's no doubt about that.

Sometimes seeing a child prodigy perform really bugs me when it's obvious that the parents relentlessly prodded the kid to play.

This girl, on the other hand, looks old enough to have genuinely gotten into guitar on her own, and if so:

:rock-on: :party07:
 
That is phenomenal. What's sad, though, is these kids are often very lopsided savants. They're either retarded, autistic or have suffered brain injuries that prevent them from ever developing properly and having a normal life. Some of them play an instrument, some can do complex maths in their heads at incredible speeds, some show other artistic skills far above the norm. But, those skills generally exist in a vacuum. They can remember how to play a complex musical piece, but not to use the toilet, and so on. So, while you envy their skills, be careful what you wish for. I'd love to be able to play like some of these kids, but not at the price.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTfDf4b5oE

This guy seems more like a savant than the girl. You can see the typical autistic features quite clearly, but the girl seems to be simply very talented. It's also very likely that she started practicing at an early stage, when your brain is the most susceptible to learning.

Also, you can certainly have a normal life as a savant, or even if you're simply autistic. I have Asperger's Syndrome (a high-functional version of Autism, meaning I don't have motory problems) and I'm doing fine.  :blob7:
When I look at savants I see them enjoying life far more than we are in all honesty. They aren't bothered by politics and disputes, but take joy in the little things in life. Sure, society may look at them and think "What the hell is his problem?" but most of the time these savants are unaffected, they love their life.
 
Man, I'd LOVE to live in Japan. I'd move today if I could find a decent job (I know the cost of living its hella expensive). I love Japanese
women too, always have. (Which is wierd, because I find most other asian women... not so much). And the history and culture ROCK.

 
Have you seen the Top Gear where the race a bullet train across Japan?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEKHlDeMt5k[/youtube]
 
Man, that girl is amazing.  What a wonderful gift to have found something you're so in touch with at such a young age. 

-Mark
 
Kaoskadosk said:
Also, you can certainly have a normal life as a savant, or even if you're simply autistic. I have Asperger's Syndrome (a high-functional version of Autism, meaning I don't have motory problems) and I'm doing fine.  :blob7:
When I look at savants I see them enjoying life far more than we are in all honesty. They aren't bothered by politics and disputes, but take joy in the little things in life. Sure, society may look at them and think "What the hell is his problem?" but most of the time these savants are unaffected, they love their life.

I get what your'e saying. And that's pretty cool that you have Asperger's and you get along fine.

I actually recently saw a TV special about a man who has Asperberger's and he's a mathematical genius. He memorized twenty THOUSAND digits of pi in one try. He learned Icelandic - which is apparently the most complex and difficult language in the world - and he was fluent in a week. He also has synesthesia. It's hard to imagine. the guy just sees the world in a completely different way.
 
Kaoskadosk said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTfDf4b5oE

This guy seems more like a savant than the girl. You can see the typical autistic features quite clearly, but the girl seems to be simply very talented. It's also very likely that she started practicing at an early stage, when your brain is the most susceptible to learning.

Also, you can certainly have a normal life as a savant, or even if you're simply autistic. I have Asperger's Syndrome (a high-functional version of Autism, meaning I don't have motory problems) and I'm doing fine.  :blob7:
When I look at savants I see them enjoying life far more than we are in all honesty. They aren't bothered by politics and disputes, but take joy in the little things in life. Sure, society may look at them and think "What the hell is his problem?" but most of the time these savants are unaffected, they love their life.

Really? I also have Asperger's Syndrome.
Contrary to what people always think given my love of music, I'm actually no good at it at all, it's just an interest of mine.
I do have problems with fine motor skills though, my handwritting has been about the same in legibility since I learned to write.

It's impossible to say whether the life of someone with AS/Autism/Savantism/whatever is better or worse than that of a normal person, neither party has the experience of the other to compare, but I've always been much happier with the way I was than the way normal people appeared to me. I've always had this feeling that normal people around me were so stupid that it deeply bothered me.
When I was in elementary school, while everyone else played at reccess, I read books. My 5th grade teacher's husband was an EE or something, and she arranged for us to meet one day after school and he showed me an oscilloscope and some stuff, and was unable to teach me very much about electronics that I didn't already know. (Though he did give me  some electrical theory books and some components. :icon_biggrin:) I could never relate to the other kids, because they had no idea what the hell I was talking about.
 
Even to this day, I would really die than to live life as a normal person without the gifts and talents that I have.
I have my obstacles, and to a lot of people, I can almost appear retarded because of a lack of certain basic skills, (Like carrying on a simple face to face conversation for example.) but the gifts outweigh the problems to me.

I don't see any reason why musical savants couldn't be the same way. The way that you think and function is just different. You're not interested in the skills you don't have, and those things don't bother you.
 
I feel exactly the same way. My psychologist even told me that "there's no cure for Asperger" which made me a bit mad, considering she was basically telling me that I'm sick and I'll have to continue to be so. As you say, we have problems. Some problems are worse than "normal" problems, but these things oftenly makes us stronger and even further enhances our will to strive and make our lives as good as possible. Who cares if some random guy think's we're idiots? We don't care about him and his problems!  :eek:ccasion14:

I usually find that people with Asperger/Autism/ADHD etc. are more approachable and open-hearted than most people, because when you go through a lot of trouble and problems, you can't help but let that affect you, and most of the time you learn from it and get out of it as a better person. Of course, that's not always the case since I've met some really arrogant and selfish people with one of these "disorders", but of the time it's because they haven't even realized it yet. If I'm being arrogant, how can I know that I'm arrogant of nobody tells me?  :dontknow:

But hey, maybe that's just my wierd observation of things, it all really doesn't matter in the end  :cool01:
 
Kaoskadosk said:
Who cares if some random guy think's we're idiots? We don't care about him and his problems!  :eek:ccasion14:

Something I learned long ago is that you can't worry about what people think of you. It has no effect on your life unless for illogical reasons, you allow it to.
People will think what they like, I don't give a rat's ass. :blob7:

Edit: Spelling error.
 
I gotta say, you guys rock!

BTW - line6man - seems to me you can carry on a conversation just fine.  Well, an on-line version anyway...

Oh - nice bass.  :headbang:
 
mayfly said:
BTW - line6man - seems to me you can carry on a conversation just fine.  Well, an on-line version anyway...

I'm great with typing/writing, and I've always been told I had great writing skills, even though any sort of creative writing would be impossible for me. :blob7: I just can't communicate verbally as well as I can through other ways like typing.

Edit: Grammatical error. Somewhat ironic for the content of this post. :doh:
 
Kaoskadosk said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTfDf4b5oE


I love what the news reader at the start says: "listening to a child play a musical instrument is a painful experience" The guy who typed this little speech up must be a cynic!
 
elfro89 said:
Kaoskadosk said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTfDf4b5oE


I love what the news reader at the start says: "listening to a child play a musical instrument is a painful experience" The guy who typed this little speech up must be a cynic!
Imagine him w/out a guitar at 50 seconds
 
He may or maynot have some sort of condition that would be considered abnormal, I see the mannerisms you guys are seeing, he may just be an 8 year old who hasn't developed his guitar face yet, I mean have you seen Mayfly?
He could be a total idiot for all we know.  Just kidding Mayfly, we love ya Bro.

 
Hey, I say anyone can be a master of their chosen field. It comes down to how much time you dedicate. It may take longer than you hoped or longer than the kid down the street took, but who cares? The mastery of anything is all about the journey you took to get there not arriving at the destination. That's a big key to staying motivated.

Ok, I'll take off my guru cap and put my soap box away now...  :toothy12:
 
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