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Gonna take (at some point soon) a mahogany body and paint the top opaque with a clean line for natural clear back. Same with the necks. After sealing/grain filling, should I mask/prime/paint the top then clear everything at once? or with a clean line does it help to lightly clear the back first, then shoot the color, then shoot clear? All of this will be nitro lacquer.
 
I think I would give it a shot of shellac or maybe a wash coat of clear nitro before masking the back for the clearcoat.  But Tonar's opinion will of course trump all.
 
thanks, man. I guess I'm beating a dead horse asking about finishing advice here, can anyone recommend any other guitar finishing forums where I might pose these questions?
 
I don't know of any guitar finishing forums, per se. Most building forums will necessarily have at least some discussion of it, but in my experience it's tough to get anyone responsible to commit on a particular procedure, and more often than not when you do get advice you also get the impression it's the blind leading the blind. There's usually more than one way to do something, and different people get different results even when supposedly doing the same thing. You sorta have to be part chemist, part mechanic, and part artist with plenty of experience all around.

All that said, here's how I'd do what you want to do. Once the thing has been stained, sealed and fIlled to your satisfaction, I'd shoot the thing with several coats of sanding sealer, then mask your line while also covering anything else you don't want to get any overspray on. You want to use a masking tape designed for fine lines, as the color coat is going to be pretty thin stuff and it'll get under generic or household masking tape. That green stuff from 3M seems to work pretty well, but it's not always as pliable as you need for some curves. You may want to find a well-stocked automotive supply store and get some vinyl pinstripe masking tape.

Then, shoot another coat of sanding sealer over that, which will seal the edge where the tape meets the body. Give it an hour or so, and shoot the color. Don't wait forever to remove the masking; about an hour is probably right. Any faster the paint may move, any longer and it may chip. Then, start with the clear coats. After about 3 or them, you can start levelling between coats. After about 10-12, you can hang it someplace to cure for a couple weeks.
 
Thanks, guys! I'll check that re-ranch forum, I hadn't thought of that. Not trying to get pissy, I've gotten great advice from here, but another forum might help me better and you guys here would be in a position to suggest sites.

Cagey, you say about the color:
"Give it an hour or so, and shoot the color. Don't wait forever to remove the masking; about an hour is probably right. Any faster the paint may move, any longer and it may chip."

I am masking stripes on the color and shooting another color before final clear. Probably silver on orange. Should I just remove masking after an hour then let it sit a day or two before remasking everything for the stripes?


I know this is all hit or miss and experience counts for everything but the most I've finished to this point is an antique metronome, I love a good challenge though! I appreciate all your advice, especially the part about sealing the tape before spraying for the clean line - I've been stressing about that and that makes total sense. I plan on fully finishing test pieces to hone my methods and test a few color options before I even buy the kit. If I screw it up, well, black guitars are nice too! :)

 
clearerphish said:
I am masking stripes on the color and shooting another color before final clear. Probably silver on orange. Should I just remove masking after an hour then let it sit a day or two before remasking everything for the stripes?

I would. Masking over fresh paint is risky business. You may also want to switch to the blue tape vs. the green when you get to that step. The green is a higher-tack tape, so it'll pull more aggressively when you remove it.
 
Wow, I just wanted to say thank you - that reranch forum is precisely what I'm looking for!!!

Cagey, thank you so much. Whenever I do all this I will make sure to show off my success or failure. Hope it's a  :occasion14: thread and not a  :dontknow: one.
 
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