Dumb question....

[BassmanAK]

Whats the weight of a maple/pau ferro Deluxe 5 neck w/ 3+2 headstock?
I'm looking for this info on the Warmoth site, and can't find it.
I'm after an average weight, just for my amusement.... :icon_biggrin:

 

[Patrick]

when you add a finish it weighs 10000000000000000x more than a raw neck so you should consider going that route  :icon_biggrin:

 

[Alfang]

The weight is not given, so that to us, is an unknown.

People have asked why the body weight is listed, but not the neck weight.

The weight of a body is one indicator of what kind of tone and sustain the guitar might have, I would think the weight of the neck might give similar clues to the tone

 

[BassmanAK]

Sorry....
I do not belong to the raw wood school....  :icon_tongue:
Had a raw Wenge neck, and I absolutely hated it!!!!! Waaaayyyyy too much drag... :binkybaby:
Yes... It was a Warmoth neck... But I do not blame them at all... That was MY
decision at the time (about 5-6 years ago now)..... :dontknow:
I want to do the lightest weight possible, since I am equally comfy w/ satin and
gloss necks, so I'm thinking maple..... :help:

 

[Patrick]

to each his own  :icon_thumright:

 

[lidesnowi]

The weight is not given, so that to us, is an unknown.

People have asked why the body weight is listed, but not the neck weight.

The weight of a body is one indicator of what kind of tone and sustain the guitar might have, I would think the weight of the neck might give similar clues to the tone

+1 Knowing the neck weight would be nice since the density of the neck wood has a big impact on the resonance quality of the guitar!
It`s a long rather thin piece of wood under tension by a lot of string pressure so the neck is equally important as the body if we are talking about resonance  :sign13: 

 

[line6man]

Had a raw Wenge neck, and I absolutely hated it!!!!! Waaaayyyyy too much drag... :binkybaby:

:icon_scratch:
I've never played Wenge, but I've always heard the opposite.
It should have very little drag, because it's so course grained that there isn't as much surface area for your hand to create friction.

Perhaps the wood was dry and in need of some oil?

 

[BassmanAK]

I applied a few coats of tung oil to it, but it never played as fast as the gloss-finished neck on my Modulus....
It's all water under the bridge at this point....
I'm looking more in the vintage-satin-nitro maple direction nowadays....
I'm trying to see if I can nail down the weight of a Deluxe 5 J in the 8.5 to 9 lb. range....
A swamp ash, or alder body with a quilt top comes in about 4.5 to 5 lbs.... soooo....
I just wanna know what an average weight for one of these necks is....
I mean, we have to tell UPS don't we, Warmoth?

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Maple or Mahogany would be your lighter ones, when compared to the Padouks, Wenges, Pau Ferros, and Rosewoods.  The profile will effect that too.  Obviously a thinner profile would weigh less.  You said a 3 +2 headstock?  Is it a Gecko?  If that's the case, your limited to Maple or Wenge (barring what shows up in the in stock section) for the core wood of the neck anyway.  Maple would lighter than Wenge.  I'm told Wenge doesn't even float!  



***EDIT****
Saw the Warmoth headstock is a 3 + 2.

 

[mullyman]

A raw neck had more drag than one with a gloss finish?
MULLY

 

[dbw]

For people with really dry hands, a glossy finish is really fast.  I know a guy like this.  For the rest of us sweaty-palmed apes, raw wood is the way to be!

 

[line6man]

A raw neck had more drag than one with a gloss finish?
MULLY

+1. :icon_scratch:

My glossy Birdseye Maple neck 'ain't nothin' like my raw Padouk neck!

The Padouk neck was a bit on the dry side when I first got it, but I gave it some Howard Feed N' Wax, and its been nice and smooth ever since.

 

[line6man]

For people with really dry hands, a glossy finish is really fast.  I know a guy like this.  For the rest of us sweaty-palmed apes, raw wood is the way to be!

I don't think a drop of sweat has ever touched any of my necks. :blob7:

As I've stated a few times on this board, oddly enough I prefer the feel of gloss to satin, but raw beats them all.

 

[dbw]

For people with really dry hands, a glossy finish is really fast.  I know a guy like this.  For the rest of us sweaty-palmed apes, raw wood is the way to be!

I don't think a drop of sweat has ever touched any of my necks. :blob7:

Well la-de-da  :icon_biggrin:  I wish I had a camera here... I'd send you a picture of my desk at work.  It has two big stains on the wood where my palms rest while I'm typing  :tard:

 

[BassmanAK]

Sooooo....
Does anyone have a general weight guideline???? :sad:
For say.... Deluxe 5 neck in maple (no figure, sorry), pau ferro board, and 3+2 (Warmoth) headstock...
Thanks..... :toothy11:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

No help with the weight.  Your goal of 9.5 lbs is probably not doable with a Deluxe 5.  I have a 9.5 pounder 4-string with Maple/RW neck, and it had to have a chambered body and Ultralite tuners.  There are 2 batteries however.  I couldn't imagine adding more weight to the neck, not chambering the body, adding a bigger bridge and one more tuner and have it still be as light as the one I mentioned.  Maybe 10 to 12 pounds might be reasonable.

 

[BassmanAK]

Thanks Turbo....
I suppose if I get it down to less than the monster Roscoe Beck V
I used to have, I'll be happy.... :icon_biggrin:
That thing was an absolute BEAST!!!!!!

No help with the weight.  Your goal of 9.5 lbs is probably not doable with a Deluxe 5.  I have a 9.5 pounder 4-string with Maple/RW neck, and it had to have a chambered body and Ultralite tuners.  There are 2 batteries however.  I couldn't imagine adding more weight to the neck, not chambering the body, adding a bigger bridge and one more tuner and have it still be as light as the one I mentioned.  Maybe 10 to 12 pounds might be reasonable.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Before I got my 1st Warmoth, I was considering the Roscoe Beck IV.  There were a few disuasions - none of them pertaining to the playabilty.  I would've prefered a side jack, or anything other than a pickguard mounted top jack.  On such a modern instrument, that was such a vintage throwback aspect that is so easily improved upon.  The mini-toggles were reportedly sandwiched between the jack and controls to the point of almost unusable on the fly.  The Honeyburst color that they listed was reported by many to be inconsistent from model to model and not really a good representation of a Honeyburst.  Those things, plus it had a hefty price tag - even used.  I got exactly what I wanted with my W and even saved a few bucks.

 

[BassmanAK]

I'm basically trying to do something like this:
http://www.sadowsky.com/stock/view/4567.html
Imagine that with a matching head, and 3+2 tuner arrangement.