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AC/DC calling it quits.....

    That talk about the drums and the space between the beats reminds of a time my friend had me listen to Mastadon.  All I could think was, "Why won't this drummer just play a damn steady beat I can get get into?"
 
Blastbeat drumming is insane. As are ultrafuzz basses unless it's for a semi-comical spoof. THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO BUT DOWN. I wish I could like more metal guitarists - chops and knowledge out the wazoo, but they're stuck their own head into the woodchipper. In the 1980's it was spandex, eye makeup and the stupidest songwriting imaginable. Pour some sugar on me? In the 90's it was heroin. So far this decade it's been blastbeats.  I can see how evolution works - if a little bit is good, a little bit more must be better - but some bands have shot their whole wad in the first 30 seconds! I would really like to hear the guitar player. There's been a few intersecting historical arcs that mean that, now that it's finally OK to play guitar solos again, and there are some guitarists with incredible technique - but I can't hear it anyway. GodDAM cymbals.... I don't want to BE Dragonforce, I want to BE the guy who hangs 'em upside down from a tree and throws ROCKS at Dragonforce. Paul Gilbert is a great guitarist but his CD's, dogwam-i-tee.
 
I had to look up blastbeat. Blastbeat is cool in moderation as a technique. But what people class blastbeat looks more like blast measures. Barf. that's the antithesis of what I was praising ACDC for earlier, leaving space. The gutter lyrics screaming vocals, open chords, and pedal tones make you think its simple rock n roll until you start analyzing it rhythmically. Wicked backhand syncopation. The one word that best describes them is compelling, no make that arresting.  Something entire generations of music have been oblivious too.  :rock-on:
 
perhaps i wad a bit too understated. By " blast Beat" I meant like in beats 3 and 4 of a single measure. Not "play all the drums on every single beat"
 
Oh dear  :sad:

Why  :icon_scratch:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-gets-charged-with-attempting-to-procure-a-murder-20141106-11hs1u.html
 
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Oh dear  :sad:

Why  :icon_scratch:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-gets-charged-with-attempting-to-procure-a-murder-20141106-11hs1u.html
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Does not mention the price or methods.  Concrete shoes? Cyanide? High voltage? We need more info.
 
Silly git. As Benjamin Franklin wisely said: Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead.

Some things you just don't job out.
 
Hopefully it had something to do with blast beat drumming. The court might show leniency in such a case
 
Charges dropped, And apparently Phil has been too. "His absence will not affect the upcoming album or tour"
 
Well, the "attempting to procure murder" charge has been dropped, but the "threatening to kill" and apparently petty drug possession charges are still in place.
 
After forty years of suitcases and hotel living, some people really probably shouldn't even HAVE "homes." Idle minds & playgrounds... every time Eric Clapton went "home" it burned down, he torched at least a couple housefuls of 'irreplaceable' vintage this-n-that. Every time Rick James went "home" he smoked crack and beat up a woman.... so just tour, already. It's what you're for. :icon_thumright:
 
The reverse can certainly be true as well, though. A lotta travel with the attendant suitcase/hotel living, forced toleration of the transportation industry, crowds and questionable food on other's schedules is enough to make you wanna climb the clock tower with a high-powered rifle and a bag o' ammo and start picking off all of creation, too. If I never set foot near an airport terminal, rental car agency, hotel desk or restaurant again for the balance of my life I won't miss it for a nanosecond. Well, maybe some restaurants could be excused...
 
StübHead said:
After forty years of suitcases and hotel living, some people really probably shouldn't even HAVE "homes." Idle minds & playgrounds... every time Eric Clapton went "home" it burned down, he torched at least a couple housefuls of 'irreplaceable' vintage this-n-that. Every time Rick James went "home" he smoked crack and beat up a woman.... so just tour, already. It's what you're for. :icon_thumright:
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As always, You speak the truth sir. 

Might be hard to dig out of your posts sometimes, but truth nonetheless.
 
Maybe if he hadn't insisted on getting it done dirt cheap, he might be facing murder charges instead of just communicating threats.
 
For those about to blast beat tastefully as an accent the way it should be done... we salute you.

Been working on a tune, I'm pretty excited about where it's going, feeling good about it so far. So I make a CD to listen to it in my car on the way to work.  Rather than waste blank CD's, I usually stick some fillers on there. It turns out to be instructive, particularly if you put stuff on there for comparison.  So I'm starting to feel good about my tune .. until I get a whiff of "For Those About to Rock"  And my drums sound wimpy and muffled, and I can't seem to make them explode without burying everything else, and now I think I just wanna give up after hearing my song compared with that.

Granted, if I could make something like FTATR in my home studio with a software drum machine and free samples it might be time to tell the boss to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24
 
I'm not sure if it would get you what you want, but gated reverb on drums has been used to great effect by some to get that serious "punch". Basically, you run your drums through a reverb chamber of some sort, then run that output through a noise gate. Set the gate for instant attack and the release threshold fairly early, and things will just snap. Think Phil Collins' drums.
 
It basically needs more everything. Its thin, dull, has no crack, crackle or pop, and no boom either. Phil gets that "Front Toward Enemy" sound of a claymore mine going off. While auditioning snares this was one of the fullest fattest snares I could find.  I have played with gated reverb. It helped, but I'm still looking at a source sound issue I believe

We're really going OT even for OT, but I have been thinking about picking up drums lately. Been eyeballing Craigslist and offering trades on stuff I've been trying to sell. If I get a kit minus a snare, I'm actually tempted to pick up a marching snare.
 
Sooo... get pissed! Get some ultra-heavy sticks and go all John Bonham on the things. That'll learn 'em.

Of course, you'll have to start buying heads by the case, but that's ok. You'll sound serious.

Also, one of my brothers used to drum, and he'd put like 4"x4" wads of cloth taped down with duct tape on the heads, off to the side by the retainer/tensioning ring. Gave 'em more definition as it stopped the thing from ringing.
 
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