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Kaoskadosk
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Guys, guys..
It's art. Which means you can be crazy as hell and get away with it.
It's art. Which means you can be crazy as hell and get away with it.
being an Artist, can I just say I love when my painstakingly Illustrated human studies. get passed over and the Teacher/Critic goes.
"This, Piece.... this... Red Cube... is so encompasses the immediacy of modern man, the very peril we each face as humans in our day to day struggle to both blend in and yet still be seen!"
"Mam, thats the fire alarm."
".... Well, then this Steel cylinder, with its obscene size and phallic nature, seems to erupt from the floor as if it is mans phallus violently reaching towards the heavens to"
"MAM, THAT'S A TRASH CAN"
i really love it.
so much.
"This, Piece.... this... Red Cube... is so encompasses the immediacy of modern man, the very peril we each face as humans in our day to day struggle to both blend in and yet still be seen!"
"Mam, thats the fire alarm."
".... Well, then this Steel cylinder, with its obscene size and phallic nature, seems to erupt from the floor as if it is mans phallus violently reaching towards the heavens to"
"MAM, THAT'S A TRASH CAN"
i really love it.
so much.
Superlizard
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AGWAN said:
Sounds like she needs to get laid. :laughing7:
Superlizard
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AGWAN said:
*shudder*
Well that explains it...
bpmorton777
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I was just thinking the other night what if YO hadnt met JL ...we woulda had some great Beatles tunes from the 70's forward instead of the sporadic crap they put out individually. Sure they had a couple of hits here and there ( My Sweet Lord, Imagine etc.) but I think it would been so much better if they had stuck together.
YO killed the Beatles.
Brian
YO killed the Beatles.
Brian
Cagey
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Kaoskadosk said:
No, it's Yoko Oh, NO! Which means she can do anything she wants and get away with it. People will even applaud. But, if you were to go and wail like a siamese cat in heat at the top of your lungs in a public place like that for 2 minutes, you'd be arrested.
She's been pulling that crap for years. Just because she managed to snag a doped-up Beatle doesn't automatically mean she has any talent. She clearly doesn't.
Graffiti62
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My little brother had the same problem til he switched to boxers. But in all honesty, what do you expect from someone who spent the entire taping of the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus playing around in a Hefty bag?
The funniest Yoko story has to come from Jack Douglas (did the production work on many of Lennon's solo albums, as well as many of the pre-sober Aerosmith albums). I think she's still pissed at him because he would refuse to turn the recorders on til she would sing in pitch.
The funniest Yoko story has to come from Jack Douglas (did the production work on many of Lennon's solo albums, as well as many of the pre-sober Aerosmith albums). I think she's still pissed at him because he would refuse to turn the recorders on til she would sing in pitch.
bagman67
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Wow, lotsa preconceptions, prejudices, and religious dogmas going on here...not that I have any hope or desire to dispel them. But I can mebbe contextualize 'em a tad.
1. The Beatles were imploding perfectly well without Yoko's help, and should have been - they'd shot their best by the time Yoko even showed up.
2. Most artists and other geniuses have their best work behind them by the time they're 40. Hence, the occasional "good" post-Beatles Lennon, Harrison, or McCartney tune - rather than a steady stream of them.
3. Yoko, while certainly not most folks' cup of tea, actually IS an accomplished artist (in addition to being a profoundly mercenary custodian of Lennon's estate -- "Revolution" to sell Nikes? Puh-leeze!). The problem is that modern art is total inside-baseball - you have to really be up on the mumbo-jumbo and philosophical underpinning to appreciate what's going on. Otherwise it looks like a crazy Japanese lady grunting and shrieking in a museum. I'm not trying to suggest she doesn't look like a crazy lady grunting and shrieking - I'm suggesting, however, that the grunting and shrieking may have a point beyond the mere noises and physical attitudes, and was the precise performance she intended to produce - not just unstructured wailing.
4. Metal Machine Music is one of the best guitar records ever. Some of you who find Yoko completely mystifying might even agree with that statement.
Okay, thanks for your patience with my own unappetizing brand of pedantry...
Bagman
1. The Beatles were imploding perfectly well without Yoko's help, and should have been - they'd shot their best by the time Yoko even showed up.
2. Most artists and other geniuses have their best work behind them by the time they're 40. Hence, the occasional "good" post-Beatles Lennon, Harrison, or McCartney tune - rather than a steady stream of them.
3. Yoko, while certainly not most folks' cup of tea, actually IS an accomplished artist (in addition to being a profoundly mercenary custodian of Lennon's estate -- "Revolution" to sell Nikes? Puh-leeze!). The problem is that modern art is total inside-baseball - you have to really be up on the mumbo-jumbo and philosophical underpinning to appreciate what's going on. Otherwise it looks like a crazy Japanese lady grunting and shrieking in a museum. I'm not trying to suggest she doesn't look like a crazy lady grunting and shrieking - I'm suggesting, however, that the grunting and shrieking may have a point beyond the mere noises and physical attitudes, and was the precise performance she intended to produce - not just unstructured wailing.
4. Metal Machine Music is one of the best guitar records ever. Some of you who find Yoko completely mystifying might even agree with that statement.
Okay, thanks for your patience with my own unappetizing brand of pedantry...
Bagman
there was once artists that created images seeking to be profound. to bring some enlightenment and beauty into this world. people as Recent as Norman Rockwell. who realized that the Commercial Engine was not something that would weaken his art, but something he could use to reach millions more people. I mean, If your art is in one gallery in one city. for one group to smirk about. how much do you matter? how much does IT matter?
now. what if your art was in every Drugstore in north america? how many more could you reach then?
EXACTLY.
Yoko is in a group of roughly 500 people. who make art for roughly 5,000 people.
I've met a lot of them. they're all arsehats.
they're making Ugly, critical things. with no effort. its the Emperors Wardrobe and everyone is admiring the Tassels.
I've been in that world. had a chance to go far in it.
and then I realized how... useless, to society the "High Art" world is.
I burned everything. paintings, brushes. sketches.
and put it all away, gave up for years. I got a job stocking shelves at Wal-Mart and I just... shut down. I was burned out by it all.
So when someone tells me "You Just don't get it"
I get it. I hate it.
I mean, maybe people don't get Van Gogh. but I think even looking at his most surreal work, or Picasso's most abstract. you can tell they wanted to show you beauty. through their own perspective.
Yoko is being ugly because they all want to feel esoteric. thats not art.
thats Posturing.
now. what if your art was in every Drugstore in north america? how many more could you reach then?
EXACTLY.
Yoko is in a group of roughly 500 people. who make art for roughly 5,000 people.
I've met a lot of them. they're all arsehats.
they're making Ugly, critical things. with no effort. its the Emperors Wardrobe and everyone is admiring the Tassels.
I've been in that world. had a chance to go far in it.
and then I realized how... useless, to society the "High Art" world is.
I burned everything. paintings, brushes. sketches.
and put it all away, gave up for years. I got a job stocking shelves at Wal-Mart and I just... shut down. I was burned out by it all.
So when someone tells me "You Just don't get it"
I get it. I hate it.
I mean, maybe people don't get Van Gogh. but I think even looking at his most surreal work, or Picasso's most abstract. you can tell they wanted to show you beauty. through their own perspective.
Yoko is being ugly because they all want to feel esoteric. thats not art.
thats Posturing.
