VIP without binding?

[swarfrat]

The driving factor here is thick tops are getting more scarce. Pretty wood usually gets sliced into thin layers to make it go further as there's less and less of it around.

 

[stratamania]

Just in case anyone checks this topic, I recently asked Warmoth about this and they pretty much said that the binding on a VIP is required regardless of the finish. From one of their emails: "Because of the carved top nature of the VIP body, binding is required." Understandable, they can't do everything.

I would imagine at the current time and workload one off requests are not being accommodated as this would require a single top rather than a double lam top as discussed earlier in the thread. I have updated one of the links in the thread as due to the new website it has changed but here it is for convenience here.

https://warmoth.com/guitar-lam-tops

 

[Sadie-f]

Just in case anyone checks this topic, I recently asked Warmoth about this and they pretty much said that the binding on a VIP is required regardless of the finish. From one of their emails: "Because of the carved top nature of the VIP body, binding is required." Understandable, they can't do everything.

I would imagine at the current time and workload one off requests are not being accommodated as this would require a single top rather than a double lam top as discussed earlier in the thread. I have updated one of the links in the thread as due to the new website it has changed but here it is for convenience here.

https://warmoth.com/guitar-lam-tops

I think warmoth doesn't want to send out any product that's not at some definition of finished. I was thinking about a carved top body and planning oil finish, which isn't ever going to work well with a plastic binding. So I asked if they'd do be willing to not install the binding, and I would do a suitable all wood binding that I could then properly finish.

The closest suggestion was I could probably remove a plastic binding with moderate ease, however paying $80 for a feature I'd have to spend time removing didn't suit, so I went a different way.

Learning that the veneer is only 1/32", I'm extremely glad I went the way I did, I fear with a layer that thin, adhesive bleed into the grain could have interfered with my color plan. I did some testing with glued figured maple veneer and it was a problem. Also wouldn't allow much sanding back margin if a first go wasn't perfect.

I think my carved top plan will wait until I can snag a beech burl I've had my eyes on .

 

[stratamania]

Just in case anyone checks this topic, I recently asked Warmoth about this and they pretty much said that the binding on a VIP is required regardless of the finish. From one of their emails: "Because of the carved top nature of the VIP body, binding is required." Understandable, they can't do everything.

I would imagine at the current time and workload one off requests are not being accommodated as this would require a single top rather than a double lam top as discussed earlier in the thread. I have updated one of the links in the thread as due to the new website it has changed but here it is for convenience here.

https://warmoth.com/guitar-lam-tops

I think warmoth doesn't want to send out any product that's not at some definition of finished. I was thinking about a carved top body and planning oil finish, which isn't ever going to work well with a plastic binding. So I asked if they'd do be willing to not install the binding, and I would do a suitable all wood binding that I could then properly finish.

The closest suggestion was I could probably remove a plastic binding with moderate ease, however paying $80 for a feature I'd have to spend time removing didn't suit, so I went a different way.

Learning that the veneer is only 1/32", I'm extremely glad I went the way I did, I fear with a layer that thin, adhesive bleed into the grain could have interfered with my color plan. I did some testing with glued figured maple veneer and it was a problem. Also wouldn't allow much sanding back margin if a first go wasn't perfect.

I think my carved top plan will wait until I can snag a beech burl I've had my eyes on .

Indeed the double lam top on a carve top without binding would not look good or be sent out. In days of yore ( a few years ago) the carve tops from Warmoth were solid as standard but no longer.

 

[rauchman]

Just in case anyone checks this topic, I recently asked Warmoth about this and they pretty much said that the binding on a VIP is required regardless of the finish. From one of their emails: "Because of the carved top nature of the VIP body, binding is required." Understandable, they can't do everything.

I would imagine at the current time and workload one off requests are not being accommodated as this would require a single top rather than a double lam top as discussed earlier in the thread. I have updated one of the links in the thread as due to the new website it has changed but here it is for convenience here.

https://warmoth.com/guitar-lam-tops

I think warmoth doesn't want to send out any product that's not at some definition of finished. I was thinking about a carved top body and planning oil finish, which isn't ever going to work well with a plastic binding. So I asked if they'd do be willing to not install the binding, and I would do a suitable all wood binding that I could then properly finish.

The closest suggestion was I could probably remove a plastic binding with moderate ease, however paying $80 for a feature I'd have to spend time removing didn't suit, so I went a different way.

Learning that the veneer is only 1/32", I'm extremely glad I went the way I did, I fear with a layer that thin, adhesive bleed into the grain could have interfered with my color plan. I did some testing with glued figured maple veneer and it was a problem. Also wouldn't allow much sanding back margin if a first go wasn't perfect.

I think my carved top plan will wait until I can snag a beech burl I've had my eyes on .

I found myself in a similar situation.  Wanted a bindingless Mooncaster.  Wanted to do my own multilayer binding.  Was told nada.  Didn't make the Mooncaster.  Tis' ashame.

I get it though.  As someone else mentioned, I'm sure they want to send out a finished product.

 

[aarontunes]

The driving factor here is thick tops are getting more scarce. Pretty wood usually gets sliced into thin layers to make it go further as there's less and less of it around.

Indeed. You know those days at some point in the future when the supply of things is gonna start to run out? They are here.

 

[Rick]

Things are running out ... and I gotta learn about it on the un official warmoth web site. Darn!  At least I still got love.