Van Halen & Warmoth connection
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I think you just answered your own question
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Warmoth makes amps? And fingers? And Ibanez Destroyers? And MXR eqs? :binkybaby:
warmoth is probably as responsible if not less so than whomever may have been president around the time Van Halen was growing up, or who is 1st grade math teacher may have been. there are way too many factors that go into forming a person and in turn their artwork. what they or you or anyone chooses to credit is fairly subjective when it goes beyond the things that have an obvious, immediate, and direct impact. but if you want to give W credit, by all means go far it. lord knows a lot of other companies take credit for every little bit of music history they can whether its honest or not.
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Like many artists, I doubt the man himself knows exactly what all his influences were in getting to the point where he introduced a new rock sound. Sure, he'd have an idea of the mechanics of what bits made the sound, but the motivation & creativity behind that decision is something most artists can't rationalise. A lot tend to suggest luck when asked.
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Well guys, if you didn't relaize it already, I was kidding. I wrote this becuase I'd just read an interview with John Suhr, where he had gone to see Eddie at his studio some years back. Before entering the room where Eddie was playing, he could here him clearly. The brown sound was unmistakable. He listened to him play for a while & then went inside to find Eddie playing a Steinberger w/ EMGs & the most rusted set of strings he'd ever seen. Moral of the story, gear really doesn't make as much of a difference as the player. Having said that, it's still pretty cool to know that Eddie's initial frankenstien strat was a Warmoth / Boogie Bodies.
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His tone went to hell as soon as he started using those dorky guitars & Peavey amps.
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Eddie still gets a good tone no matter what he uses, but his present tone isn't THE brown sound.
He went from an ash body, maple neck, fender bridge & a low output PAF w/ Alnico 2s to a basswood maple cap body, maple neck & high output PUs with totally different wire, windings, magnet etc. This would alter anyone's tone. I still like his tone, but the tone he got on the 1st 3 VH albums are his best, imo.
He went from an ash body, maple neck, fender bridge & a low output PAF w/ Alnico 2s to a basswood maple cap body, maple neck & high output PUs with totally different wire, windings, magnet etc. This would alter anyone's tone. I still like his tone, but the tone he got on the 1st 3 VH albums are his best, imo.
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I know Warmoth. Now - who's this Van Halen fella?
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Doughboy said:
Of anyone I have ever heard anywhere ever, that's the best guitar sound of the world in the history of all mankind!
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Although I think Brian May's is the most uniqueTomPerverteau said:
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TomPerverteau said:
Truer words have never been spoken.
A lot of people get great tones, but for hard rock, nothing even comes close to the early VH sound.
I wish he'd go back to the old sound, but then again, I wish he'd put out an album & that doesn't sound likely either.
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GratefullyRedd said:
I love Brian's tone. I even own a Guild Brian May Model guitar. Got it years ago on Ebay after getting into a violent bidding match with some guy from Sweden. I was hoping to get THE Brian May tone, but it didn't happen. Great guitar, but you also need a treble booster, AC30 & Brian's fingers. I had neither.
I bought a Digitech Brian May pedal that has a bunch of his tones dialed in, & that comes pretty close to caputring his tone without having to get all of his gear.
Doughboy said:
I'd have to vote for Ty Tabor's sound/tone, on the first 4 King's X albums, as being equally as cool and original. Gibson Lab amps and Fender Elite strat. Like Eddie, he uses "better" equipment now... but the tone is certainly not better. But, we digress... :icon_biggrin:
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I have the finger Brian's brother cut off does that count?Doughboy said:
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Part of me just wants to roll my eyes about Eddie seeing as though he hasn't done anything worthwhile in over 20 years. But the other part sees the awesome body of work he/they put together for that first decade.
I mean the guy was just so ahead of his time and talented, and wrote tons of legit material as opposed to just about everyone else that tried to copy him. Rock was still catching up with them in like 1990. What a beast.
I mean the guy was just so ahead of his time and talented, and wrote tons of legit material as opposed to just about everyone else that tried to copy him. Rock was still catching up with them in like 1990. What a beast.
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I don't really know what happened to Eddie. Perhaps too much booze & drugs did something permeate to his brain & he just fires differently now. He was someone who HAD to push forward, create & innovate & then suddenly he stopped cold.
I read an interview last year where he said there was no point in putting out new material since everyone would download it. Sure, people will download music, but VH has such a huge fan base that if they put out a great album, it would sell. Plus, Eddie doesn't need the money, so I'd think that putting out new material would be a reward on to it's own.
He keeps saying he has enough material for 20 albums already recorded, but it makes you think what's stopping him from putting some of it out. Dave is ready to go & so are Alex & Wolfie. Eddie seems to be the sticking point.
I still listen to the 1st 6 VH albums all the time & they'r just soooooooooooooooo good!!!!
I read an interview last year where he said there was no point in putting out new material since everyone would download it. Sure, people will download music, but VH has such a huge fan base that if they put out a great album, it would sell. Plus, Eddie doesn't need the money, so I'd think that putting out new material would be a reward on to it's own.
He keeps saying he has enough material for 20 albums already recorded, but it makes you think what's stopping him from putting some of it out. Dave is ready to go & so are Alex & Wolfie. Eddie seems to be the sticking point.
I still listen to the 1st 6 VH albums all the time & they'r just soooooooooooooooo good!!!!
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