The most amazing song ever
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i did too....it's still awesomeness... :guitarplayer2:jmcecil said:
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fdesalvo said:
Ha! Love it! :guitaristgif:
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This song, that melody, her voice, those chords, that rock-step rhythm, the recording!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ9WiuJPnNA
I wish they'd write more verses for this song. I just love the sound of her voice, relaxed, slightly nasal or raspy (a kind of broken in quality), vulnerable, yet strong, like an older sister you want to bone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ9WiuJPnNA
I wish they'd write more verses for this song. I just love the sound of her voice, relaxed, slightly nasal or raspy (a kind of broken in quality), vulnerable, yet strong, like an older sister you want to bone.
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Summary[edit]
Frog rides to ask Miss Mouse to marry him. She is willing but must ask permission of Uncle Rat. In other versions such as "King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki-Me-O" by Chubby Parker, Frog fights and kills Miss Mouse's other suitors (an owl, bat and bumblebee) after they interrupt his proposal. Uncle Rat's permission received, the two work out details of the wedding. Some versions end with a cat, snake or other creature devouring the couple and wedding guests. Sometimes Frog gets away, but is later swallowed by a duck. See "Frog Went A-Courting" at Wikisource for one version of the lyrics.
Usually, the final verse states that there's a piece of food on the shelf, and that if the listener wants to hear more verses, they have to sing it themselves.
The notes on this song in Cazden et al. (pp. 524–532) constitute probably the best succinct summary available on variants of this piece.
Origin[edit]
Spaeth has a note claiming that the original version of this was supposed to refer to François, Duke of Anjou's wooing of Elizabeth I of England, however, this was in 1579 and the original Scottish version was already published. If the second known version (1611, in Melismata, also reprinted in Chappell) were the oldest, this might be possible — there are seeming political references to "Gib, our cat" and "Dick, our Drake." But the Wedderburn text, which at least anticipates the song, predates the reign of Queen Elizabeth by nine years, and Queen Mary by four. If it refers to any queen at all, it would seemingly have to be Mary Stuart. Evelyn K. Wells, however, in the liner notes to the LP Brave Boys; New England traditions in folk music (New World Records 239, 1977), suggests that the original may have been satirically altered in 1580 when it was recorded in the register of the London Company of Stationers, as this would have been at the height of the unpopular courtship.
According to Albert Jack in his book "Pop Goes the Weasel, The Secret Meanings of Nursery Rhymes" (pp. 33–37, copyright 2008), the earliest known version of the song was published in 1549 as "The Frog Came to the Myl Dur" in Robert Wedderburn's "Complaynt of Scotland". He states that in 1547 the Scottish Queen Consort, Mary of Guise, under attack from Henry VIII, sought to marry her daughter Princess Mary (later Mary Queen of Scots), "Mrs. Mouse to the 3 year old French Prince Louis, the "frog". The song resurfaced a few years later, with changes, when another French (frog) wooing caused concern—that of the Duke of Anjou and Queen Elizabeth I in 1579. Elizabeth even nicknamed Anjou, her favorite suitor, "the frog".
Another theory traces the song to Suffolk: "Roley, Poley, Gammon and Spinach" refer to four families of Suffolk notables, Rowley, Poley, Bacon and Green.
Popular culture[edit]
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The song has been heard by many people (as "Froggie Went A-Courtin'") in the 1955 Tom and Jerry cartoon Pecos Pest, which uses a version arranged and performed by Shug Fisher, in character as "Uncle Pecos." In Pecos Pest, Jerry's Uncle Pecos stays with him while getting ready for a television appearance, and continues to pluck Tom's whiskers to use as guitar strings throughout the cartoon. It is an improvised version with many lyrics that are unintelligible, and many changed. For example, he stutters and gives up when he tries to say "hickory tree" and says "way down yonder by the--," stammers out the names of several types of trees, finally settling (ironically) on "eucalyptus". He also mentions while continuing the music "That's the hard part right in there, n-n-n-n-nephew!" and "there's a yodel in thar somewhar, but it's a little too high f'r me."
Some refer to this song as "Crambone" as it is repeated at the end of many lines and said more clearly than the other words in this version. For example, the line is "Froggie went a-courtin' he did ride/Crambone." Fisher, in character as Pecos, delivers the coda with a glottal stutter on the letter c. Woody Guthrie's version used "Hey-hey," and Bob Dylan's version used "uh-huh" in the same way after several lines.
Other examples in film and TV include:
Keith (played by Roger Sloman) plays a version on banjo before being distracted by a 'lovely robin' in Mike Leigh's Nuts in May.
In "The Muppets Valentine Show" (a 1973 pilot version of The Muppet Show), Kermit the Frog going a-courtin' Miss Mousey.
A 1977 animated version of the folk tune features a happier ending for Froggie and Miss Mousie: they honeymoon around the world and give birth to two frog/mouse combination children and complete the song with "If you want more, you've got to sing it yourself!"
Ethan Hawke's character Troy Dyer is singing the song on his guitar at the end of the film Reality Bites when Winona Ryder's character Lelaina Pierce comes and tackles him on the couch.
Danny Tanner briefly sings the song while giving his oldest daughter D.J. guitar lessons in the sitcom Full House, in the episode "The Seven Month Inch (Part 2)".
Thomas Raith hums the song during a standoff with the Denarians in Jim Butcher's Small Favor, a novel of the Dresden Files.
The Dexter's Laboratory episode "Hamhocks and Armlocks" begins with the titular Dexter and his family signing the song on a road trip.
-Bender sings a version of the song in the Futurama episode "Bendin' in the Wind".
-Bobby Hill is heard to sing the opening verse on an episode of King of the Hill.
-It has also been used in the episode of The Colbert Report that aired on May 23, 2007. This version was sung by Burl Ives. --Colbert also sung a portion of the song on the June 18, 2007 episode, during an interview with Toby Keith.
-The song was performed on The Fast Show by the character Bob Fleming as one of 'Bob Fleming's Country Favourites'.
-An explicit remixed version of this song, named "What Do You Say" by Mickey Avalon, was on the soundtrack of the 2009 film The Hangover.
-Mike Oldfield covered as a B side of Mike Oldfield's Single.
-In Six Feet Under Season 4, Episode 3 "Parallel Play", Russell Corwin played by Ben Foster, sings the chorus over and over on a stage at a party.
-The song is frequently sung in The Return of Peter Grimm, an RKO film released in 1935, and the second screen adaptation of David Belasco's Broadway hit. The film starred Lionel Barrymore.
-In 1941, the German composer Paul Hindemith wrote a series of variations "Frog He Went a Courting" for Cello and Piano.
Frog rides to ask Miss Mouse to marry him. She is willing but must ask permission of Uncle Rat. In other versions such as "King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki-Me-O" by Chubby Parker, Frog fights and kills Miss Mouse's other suitors (an owl, bat and bumblebee) after they interrupt his proposal. Uncle Rat's permission received, the two work out details of the wedding. Some versions end with a cat, snake or other creature devouring the couple and wedding guests. Sometimes Frog gets away, but is later swallowed by a duck. See "Frog Went A-Courting" at Wikisource for one version of the lyrics.
Usually, the final verse states that there's a piece of food on the shelf, and that if the listener wants to hear more verses, they have to sing it themselves.
The notes on this song in Cazden et al. (pp. 524–532) constitute probably the best succinct summary available on variants of this piece.
Origin[edit]
Spaeth has a note claiming that the original version of this was supposed to refer to François, Duke of Anjou's wooing of Elizabeth I of England, however, this was in 1579 and the original Scottish version was already published. If the second known version (1611, in Melismata, also reprinted in Chappell) were the oldest, this might be possible — there are seeming political references to "Gib, our cat" and "Dick, our Drake." But the Wedderburn text, which at least anticipates the song, predates the reign of Queen Elizabeth by nine years, and Queen Mary by four. If it refers to any queen at all, it would seemingly have to be Mary Stuart. Evelyn K. Wells, however, in the liner notes to the LP Brave Boys; New England traditions in folk music (New World Records 239, 1977), suggests that the original may have been satirically altered in 1580 when it was recorded in the register of the London Company of Stationers, as this would have been at the height of the unpopular courtship.
According to Albert Jack in his book "Pop Goes the Weasel, The Secret Meanings of Nursery Rhymes" (pp. 33–37, copyright 2008), the earliest known version of the song was published in 1549 as "The Frog Came to the Myl Dur" in Robert Wedderburn's "Complaynt of Scotland". He states that in 1547 the Scottish Queen Consort, Mary of Guise, under attack from Henry VIII, sought to marry her daughter Princess Mary (later Mary Queen of Scots), "Mrs. Mouse to the 3 year old French Prince Louis, the "frog". The song resurfaced a few years later, with changes, when another French (frog) wooing caused concern—that of the Duke of Anjou and Queen Elizabeth I in 1579. Elizabeth even nicknamed Anjou, her favorite suitor, "the frog".
Another theory traces the song to Suffolk: "Roley, Poley, Gammon and Spinach" refer to four families of Suffolk notables, Rowley, Poley, Bacon and Green.
Popular culture[edit]
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The song has been heard by many people (as "Froggie Went A-Courtin'") in the 1955 Tom and Jerry cartoon Pecos Pest, which uses a version arranged and performed by Shug Fisher, in character as "Uncle Pecos." In Pecos Pest, Jerry's Uncle Pecos stays with him while getting ready for a television appearance, and continues to pluck Tom's whiskers to use as guitar strings throughout the cartoon. It is an improvised version with many lyrics that are unintelligible, and many changed. For example, he stutters and gives up when he tries to say "hickory tree" and says "way down yonder by the--," stammers out the names of several types of trees, finally settling (ironically) on "eucalyptus". He also mentions while continuing the music "That's the hard part right in there, n-n-n-n-nephew!" and "there's a yodel in thar somewhar, but it's a little too high f'r me."
Some refer to this song as "Crambone" as it is repeated at the end of many lines and said more clearly than the other words in this version. For example, the line is "Froggie went a-courtin' he did ride/Crambone." Fisher, in character as Pecos, delivers the coda with a glottal stutter on the letter c. Woody Guthrie's version used "Hey-hey," and Bob Dylan's version used "uh-huh" in the same way after several lines.
Other examples in film and TV include:
Keith (played by Roger Sloman) plays a version on banjo before being distracted by a 'lovely robin' in Mike Leigh's Nuts in May.
In "The Muppets Valentine Show" (a 1973 pilot version of The Muppet Show), Kermit the Frog going a-courtin' Miss Mousey.
A 1977 animated version of the folk tune features a happier ending for Froggie and Miss Mousie: they honeymoon around the world and give birth to two frog/mouse combination children and complete the song with "If you want more, you've got to sing it yourself!"
Ethan Hawke's character Troy Dyer is singing the song on his guitar at the end of the film Reality Bites when Winona Ryder's character Lelaina Pierce comes and tackles him on the couch.
Danny Tanner briefly sings the song while giving his oldest daughter D.J. guitar lessons in the sitcom Full House, in the episode "The Seven Month Inch (Part 2)".
Thomas Raith hums the song during a standoff with the Denarians in Jim Butcher's Small Favor, a novel of the Dresden Files.
The Dexter's Laboratory episode "Hamhocks and Armlocks" begins with the titular Dexter and his family signing the song on a road trip.
-Bender sings a version of the song in the Futurama episode "Bendin' in the Wind".
-Bobby Hill is heard to sing the opening verse on an episode of King of the Hill.
-It has also been used in the episode of The Colbert Report that aired on May 23, 2007. This version was sung by Burl Ives. --Colbert also sung a portion of the song on the June 18, 2007 episode, during an interview with Toby Keith.
-The song was performed on The Fast Show by the character Bob Fleming as one of 'Bob Fleming's Country Favourites'.
-An explicit remixed version of this song, named "What Do You Say" by Mickey Avalon, was on the soundtrack of the 2009 film The Hangover.
-Mike Oldfield covered as a B side of Mike Oldfield's Single.
-In Six Feet Under Season 4, Episode 3 "Parallel Play", Russell Corwin played by Ben Foster, sings the chorus over and over on a stage at a party.
-The song is frequently sung in The Return of Peter Grimm, an RKO film released in 1935, and the second screen adaptation of David Belasco's Broadway hit. The film starred Lionel Barrymore.
-In 1941, the German composer Paul Hindemith wrote a series of variations "Frog He Went a Courting" for Cello and Piano.
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In the time that's elapsed since I posted this topic, I've gotten married, had two children, and my mom has passed away. I also just noticed the last line of DustyCat's response (lol!). I still love this song. What a crazy time to be alive.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2xvSZc8_UQ[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2xvSZc8_UQ[/youtube]
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MikeW said:
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The executive producer of those lived around the corner from me when I was little, his children went to school with us. I was in class with one of the daughter's. Voices of children were either his kids or kids' friends--and some of the kids depicted were modeled on them.
Our school was supplied with all of the 35mm films of these shorts.
The best part:
My first ever rock concert was when actual performers from these came and played at my school. I only later learned that Blossom Dearie was a well known jazz singer.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUgaf-oX4c4[/youtube] Ghetts is one of my favorite artists!
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8yo loved Road Runner & Coyote.
As for "hidden" meanings, I'm kind of Surprised that "Turkey in the straw" is taught to kids, and I vote "This Old Man" as the creepiest song ever which should be immediately banished.
As for "hidden" meanings, I'm kind of Surprised that "Turkey in the straw" is taught to kids, and I vote "This Old Man" as the creepiest song ever which should be immediately banished.
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No, some old man playing made up name games on children's bodyparts is as far as I think I'll go with that one. Seriously, if we're cancelling this that and the other for reasons far more tenuous, this one should probably go into the dustbin.
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