Telecaster: Alder? Or Ash?...

[back2thefutre]

I say go ash for something different :icon_thumright:

 

[lidesnowi]

One piece Hollow Alder back with a Swampash top with a one piece Q sawn big fat wide Maple neck  :icon_thumright:

 

[back2thefutre]

One piece Hollow Alder back with a Swampash top with a one piece Q sawn big fat wide Maple neck  :icon_thumright:

and a floyd rose

 

[lidesnowi]

One piece Hollow Alder back with a Swampash top with a one piece Q sawn big fat wide Maple neck  :icon_thumright:

and a floyd rose

No this http://www.tisonix.com/shopping/main/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_75&products_id=202

 

[DangerousR6]

Wow, and I've been told my neck plates are expensive....I've sold Ti plates way cheaper than that, with custom engraving even... :doh:
http://www.tisonix.com/shopping/main/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_78&products_id=192&zenid=ssqtfgjokvq2utm51ibscf0ti1


Cool bridge though... :icon_thumright:

 

[Cagey]

Those guys are nuts.

 

[Jusatele]

Dangerous, I will buy another plate from you any day, that is one sharp plate you made me. Exactly what I wanted.

 

[NLD09]

If you are going apply the finish yourself it's Alder. Pourous Ash requires more prep work prior to finishing.  If you do not finish it yourself again it's Alder. You did not specify which Ash, some Swamp Ash is way too light while some Northern Ash maybe too heavy. Generally Alder is somewhere in the middle and a safe choice.

I sort of agree. If you're going with a solid finish go Alder, but if you're going with a transparent finish, go Ash.

btw... Why have we all been capitalizing the names of the woods? Is it because they're names, or is there a different reason?

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

btw... Why have we all been capitalizing the names of the woods? Is it because they're names, or is there a different reason?

I know it's incorrect, but for the purposes of guitar talk, I consider them proper nouns, although I'd still use them in a game of scrabble.

 

[NovasScootYa]

If you are going apply the finish yourself it's Alder. Pourous Ash requires more prep work prior to finishing.  If you do not finish it yourself again it's Alder. You did not specify which Ash, some Swamp Ash is way too light while some Northern Ash maybe too heavy. Generally Alder is somewhere in the middle and a safe choice.

I sort of agree. If you're going with a solid finish go Alder, but if you're going with a transparent finish, go Ash.

btw... Why have we all been capitalizing the names of the woods? Is it because they're names, or is there a different reason?

Yes I too would rather look at Ash; almost slipped another s in there and had a bureaucratic snafu.
I use caps for Ash and Alder because they’re proper nouns and I’m a right wing tree hugger showing my respects. Actually, it’s attributed to a very large nun who long ago taught me reading, writing and arithmetic.

 

[Jusatele]

I think it is a fora thing, we do it because to us they are proper nouns. But correctly they are not.

you see musicians are not known for having Master Degrees in English, we are better known for having PHDs in chemical vices

 

[DangerousR6]

If you are going apply the finish yourself it's Alder. Pourous Ash requires more prep work prior to finishing.  If you do not finish it yourself again it's Alder. You did not specify which Ash, some Swamp Ash is way too light while some Northern Ash maybe too heavy. Generally Alder is somewhere in the middle and a safe choice.

I sort of agree. If you're going with a solid finish go Alder, but if you're going with a transparent finish, go Ash.

btw... Why have we all been capitalizing the names of the woods? Is it because they're names, or is there a different reason?

Yes I too would rather look at Ash; almost slipped another s in there and had a bureaucratic snafu.
I use caps for Ash and Alder because they’re proper nouns and I’m a right wing tree hugger showing my respects. Actually, it’s attributed to a very large nun who long ago taught me reading, writing and arithmetic.

Wasn't the Penguin from Our Lady of the Blessed ShroudOrphanage was it..... :dontknow:

 

[stubhead]

At close to 40 years of Fendering, what I believe is that the overall weight of the piece is probably more important than that particular wood choice. In fact, in a blindfold test, I really doubt the most conceited "expert" could hear the diff between a 4lb. 2oz. slab of Swamp Ash, Alder, Mahogany, Walnut, Fruitwood or any other thing. I suppose a real expert might be able to hear the diff between a 4lb. 2oz. board and a 3lb. 8oz. board, if all else was equal, he'd had his (ear)wax done and Venus was in the aspect of Mars*. And he had his lucky socks on....

Neck wood is about 77.25% of it, including size - and Big Fat & Maple wins, always. Pickups and Wiring are another 162%.....

I love the look of an nicely amber'd slab of Swamp Ash, but if you're going solid, Alder is easier to finish.

* http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusmarsaspects.html

 

[OzziePete]

At close to 40 years of Fendering, what I believe is that the overall weight of the piece is probably more important than that particular wood choice. In fact, in a blindfold test, I really doubt the most conceited "expert" could hear the diff between a 4lb. 2oz. slab of Swamp Ash, Alder, Mahogany, Walnut, Fruitwood or any other thing. I suppose a real expert might be able to hear the diff between a 4lb. 2oz. board and a 3lb. 8oz. board, if all else was equal, he'd had his (ear)wax done and Venus was in the aspect of Mars*. And he had his lucky socks on....

Neck wood is about 77.25% of it, including size - and Big Fat & Maple wins, always. Pickups and Wiring are another 162%.....

I love the look of an nicely amber'd slab of Swamp Ash, but if you're going solid, Alder is easier to finish.

* http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusmarsaspects.html

Ordinarily I'd tend to agree with you on the nuances of tone and how hard it would be to discern from one piece of wood to the other - particularly how the body wood interacts in a solid body. But years ago, a bass playing friend of mine bought an Ibanez Eagle Bass that was essentially a Jazz bass with fancy horns. Not my cup of tea by any shot but that bass blew the bottoms of genuine Fender Jazz basses....We had it in recording and we did have some serious gigging musos pour over this bass due to the huge bottom end this thing had. It wasn't til years later that I could spec it out on the net and found the only difference (besides the 'crappy Jap pickups') was that the Eagle Bass had a mahogany body. The neck profile was very slender for a bass IMHO, and the headstock had a fancy cutaway made into the curvy part of the F shaped headstock, so neck-wise, this bass was probably lighter than a Jazz Bass. All other specs were just about identical with the Fender Jazz bass of that time. If ever I build a J-bass I will be having  a mahogany body that is as heavy as a 4 ton truck and will report on how that compares.....