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TBurst Std said:
Oh and if you ever get a chance, go to see Jeff.  After an hour or so you'll be done though. 
Not much of a stage prescence and after a while it all starts to sound the same.  But on some songs, as a guitar player, you will just shake your head and go what? How did he do that? 

I've seen Robin Trower a few times and come away wondering the same thing. Why didn't I just crank the CD up to earth-shaking sound pressure levels instead? Could've saved a pile of money and hardship. Great player, great music, no show to speak of. Could've fallen asleep if I wasn't so uncomfortable.
 
Good point about the bridge plate - I sorta knew that but wasn't thinking about it.  It's certainly something to keep in mind.  The tele bridge pickup has a giant hole to patch without it, and since it's an integral part of the sound I think I'll just plan on a traditional bridge.

 
Woah should not have done this one...it leaves me feeling empty inside. Might have a to sell a snare drum... Too bad the spare neck I have laying around is 24.75 and Wenge. If it weren't for the scale I'd be thinking about having the headstock recut to a Tele.

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Cagey said:
TBurst Std said:
Oh and if you ever get a chance, go to see Jeff.  After an hour or so you'll be done though. 
Not much of a stage prescence and after a while it all starts to sound the same.  But on some songs, as a guitar player, you will just shake your head and go what? How did he do that? 

I've seen Robin Trower a few times and come away wondering the same thing. Why didn't I just crank the CD up to earth-shaking sound pressure levels instead? Could've saved a pile of money and hardship. Great player, great music, no show to speak of. Could've fallen asleep if I wasn't so uncomfortable.
Glad to know you got the same show from Ronin Trower that I did.  Did he have the vocalist with the coke bottle glasses?
 
I don't remember now, the last time I saw him was probably 10 years ago. Right up at the stage in a fairly small venue with no orchestra pit or anything. Could've shaken his hand easily. Couldn't hear for 2 days afterward  :laughing7:
 
swarfrat said:
Woah should not have done this one...it leaves me feeling empty inside. Might have a to sell a snare drum... Too bad the spare neck I have laying around is 24.75 and Wenge. If it weren't for the scale I'd be thinking about having the headstock recut to a Tele.

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That is mighty fine. Tort with black is always a good combo. The Thinline pickguard has the same balanced look that the Deluxe has. Much to like, there.

I had my 24.75" neck cut to the Tele headstock. It looks good if you put just a slight radius on the corners of the fretboard to give more of the Tele look.
 
swarfrat said:
Woah should not have done this one...it leaves me feeling empty inside. Might have a to sell a snare drum... Too bad the spare neck I have laying around is 24.75 and Wenge. If it weren't for the scale I'd be thinking about having the headstock recut to a Tele.

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That's a really nice combo, you gotta build it just so we can see how it looks! BTW, nothing wrong with a short scale Tele, plays very well....  :icon_thumright:
 
It has been said that the tele is the polygraph of guitars, it reflects what you do or don't bring to the table very directly. I like that as a challenge and as a strat guy I got a tele this year and love it. Strats still feel like home to me in every way and the tele, for me, is this wonderful exotic animal. I have the traditional ashtray bridge and have no comfort issues with it but there are options aside from that. I have ten gauge strings on my strats but 9 gauge on my tele for bending country licks.
 
Well,i hadnt thought about 28.625 yet but i love it. Not for baritone but for a regular guitar in D. Just fits mine (and so many others) voice better.  Also tried it in red pearloid and it is sharp but the tort Warmoth shows blows it away. Lots of different torts though. And not all are equal.
 
More mini-hb in a tele goodness...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnpSlfGSK0[/youtube]

Some GFS minis. (skip the talk yadayadayda - playing begins around 0:42)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkwxaDEIxIc[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODh9_ab8pc[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm2bq5dul0[/youtube]


 
A thread over at talkbass got me thinking... I saw some painted maple fingerboards. Most were tacky, a few were ho hum, but the gloss black fingerboards were sharp.

Anyone ever painted a maple FB? Paint first, then polish the frets clean? Mask? If the answer is paint first then fret, I'll look elsewhere (ebony) but what I saw actually looked really sharp (in black. The white was also nice looking but only for special cases - kinda like gold hardware.)
 
I haven't done it, and have only seen done very rarely. I suspect it would be more for a showpiece than something that got much use. I'm not aware of any finish that will stand up to the abuse of being rubbed by metal. Maple needs a finish so it gets clearcoated, since that won't show the wear as quickly as a colored finish will.

If you liked the black, then Ebony is a good choice. Feels better than a finished fretboard, too. If you'd prefer a different species of wood, India ink will blacken just about anything.
 
Here is an example of a maple board made black and retaining the flame.

I immediately thought of it as I played it when it was in the UK dealer that sold it. I was quite tempted but it was about £5K at the time. As I recall it had an even C slim neck rather than the elliptical most modern Suhr's have.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFWK3IOdkMA[/youtube]
 
Here's one stolen from talkbass - gloss brings a shine that ebony doesn't have:

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Yeah, that's nice. I've been burnishing Ebony before fretting to get it even smoother than it normally is, but it doesn't get a sheen like that. On the plus side, my necks will still look/feel good after years of play. That one I'm not so sure about.
 
My first (and only Telecaster) happened to be a Thinline, which may not get the chime of a solidbody, but it can certainly chirp. When I got mine in 2010, the neck was coated in an almost candied level of polyurethane like that black bass up above. The neck felt more plastic than it did wood. On a crazy level of artistic imagination, my Thinline Telecaster originally gave me a feeling of an airplane for some reason with the 'f' hole which I'm a huge fan of aesthetically, and with that super shiny glossy finish coating I kept thinking of myself as Randy Rhoads on a Tele. I know that's not a good combination in retrospect (if u know his story), but I eventually replaced the neck with a Warmoth neck just a tad bit wider, and certainly heavier, and the guitar lost the feeling of an airplane and took on a more regal battle axe quality.

Going back to that trebly chirp (from the wide range pickups), I once owned an Epiphone acoustic guitar which set up my ears to hone in on that sound. Thin body. My friend got it from some homeless guy (who pounded nails into the finger board, and much of the binding on the neck has fallen off, the guitar was a beater) and was going to get it fixed up and never did so he gave it to me. It sat around my basement (dad's basement) until I finally decided to get it fixed up for novelty value. Well, you never know what guitar is going to start calling you, and lately what I've found out is that guitars reserved as "beaters" can certainly see a lot of action either casual or professionally, and this one started seeing more rounds in the rotation.

I don't know WHAT kind of electronics they put in there...L.R. Baggs, Dare I say Fish-? Nah.
Anyways, no matter what I did this guitar ALWAYS with the PIERCING TREBLE!!! Holy cow! Even acoustic it had an articulate tone great for single note leads! I've got some recordings.

Anyways, here's a recording of me and one of my favorite musicians back in 2008. GUESS WHO'S GOT THE BITING TREBLE TONE? Ha ha! Yeah that's right, yours truly!
My buddy Justin who played most of the rhythm (and a few leads) was playing his Cort acoustic with an external/detachable acoustic pickup (mine, got it for like $59, I forget, it might be Seymours, sounds great!)

[youtube]K3RxjUCdqYA[/youtube]

OMG that treble! It probably doesn't help that a family member recorded with a handheld digital recorder (intended for voice, one of those office ones you see at staples),

Ahhh, meeeeemoriiiiiiies  :occasion14:
Justin lives in Washington state btw. He's knowledgeable, skilled, and a great friend btw if you want to hire him  :icon_thumright:
 
Taxi! A real photo stolen from TDPRI.
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GFS actually has a mini-humbucker sized H-gated Liverpool (the alnico version) that might be just the ticket in sound as well as looks.
 
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