So disappointment Warmoth Thinline (Input Jack Issues)

[LoxFL]

So I bought a beautiful Warmoth Thinline from their showcase. The issue is the thickness of the wood where the 7/8 jack hole is located is so thin you cant use a Tele Cup or an Electrosocket. A Tele Cup goes all the way through the hole leaving no where to put the clip and the Electrosocket also goes all the way through the hole with little or no wood for the 2 screws to bite into. So I am left with what a football or Gibson style jack plate? Thats BS if I wanted a Gibson looking guitar I would have bought a Regal body.

Any thoughts on what I can do? Can I glue a small piece of wood on each side of the jack hole so the screws from the Electrosocket have something to grab?

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

It's not a Warmoth issue, is a design issue with Thinlines in general.

Which is why this is offered.
http://www.warmoth.com/Electro-Socket-style-Jackplate-with-Switchcraft-Jack-P1769C68.aspx




& technically, it's an "Output" jack.

Guitars receive no inbound signal except for the pickups themselves.

 

[LoxFL]

It's not a Warmoth issue, is a design issue with Thinlines in general.

Which is why this is offered.
http://www.warmoth.com/Electro-Socket-style-Jackplate-with-Switchcraft-Jack-P1769C68.aspx




& technically, it's an "Output" jack.

Guitars receive no inbound signal except for the pickups themselves.

This is a Electrosocket. As noted in my post I already have an Electrosocket, not from Warmoth, and I still have the same issue

 

[stratamania]

It's not a Warmoth issue, is a design issue with Thinlines in general.

Which is why this is offered.
http://www.warmoth.com/Electro-Socket-style-Jackplate-with-Switchcraft-Jack-P1769C68.aspx




& technically, it's an "Output" jack.

Guitars receive no inbound signal except for the pickups themselves.

This is a Electrosocket. As noted in my post I already have an Electrosocket, not from Warmoth, and I still have the same issue

Note the link provided was to an Electrosocket style so the one you have may be different.

 

[LoxFL]

It's not a Warmoth issue, is a design issue with Thinlines in general.

Which is why this is offered.
http://www.warmoth.com/Electro-Socket-style-Jackplate-with-Switchcraft-Jack-P1769C68.aspx




& technically, it's an "Output" jack.

Guitars receive no inbound signal except for the pickups themselves.

This is a Electrosocket. As noted in my post I already have an Electrosocket, not from Warmoth, and I still have the same issue

Note the link provided was to an Electrosocket style so the one you have may be different.

This is the one I got

https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Jack_Plates/Electrosocket_Jack_Mount.html

 

[swarfrat]

I'm curious why an electrosocket has no bite. Screws not long enough? Seems like the bent clip original style actually might have more flexibility here - you can always use a bigger clip.

 

[Fat Pete]

Are you sure there isn't enough wood? I'd guess the 'wall' is about 0.625" and the screws on an electrosocket splay out wider than it might seem.

Beyond that though, is the issue of electrosockets (or trad cups) not really working that well on anything that doesn't have a flat jack area, as the edges will stand proud unless you want to get into some delicate woodwork on your expensively finished body. This irritates me plenty enough to have fitted 'football' plates to my Teles and nobody's ever said they look like Gibsons (even if one of them arguably doesn't actually look like a Tele).

 

[LoxFL]

I'm curious why an electrosocket has no bite. Screws not long enough? Seems like the bent clip original style actually might have more flexibility here - you can always use a bigger clip.

The depth of the hole is so think that the Tele Cup and Elecrosocket go all the way through

 

[LoxFL]

Are you sure there isn't enough wood? I'd guess the 'wall' is about 0.625" and the screws on an electrosocket splay out wider than it might seem.

Beyond that though, is the issue of electrosockets (or trad cups) not really working that well on anything that doesn't have a flat jack area, as the edges will stand proud unless you want to get into some delicate woodwork on your expensively finished body. This irritates me plenty enough to have fitted 'football' plates to my Teles and nobody's ever said they look like Gibsons (even if one of them arguably doesn't actually look like a Tele).

Yea I think I have no choice but the do a fitted 'football' plates

 

[Verne Bunsen]

Do you have any pictures showing what you are up against? I have an Electrosocket in one of my Warmoth ThinLine Teles and it installed with no problems at all. As has been stated the edges are a bit proud due to the curvature of the Tele's surface, but no issues with the screws. I've put Electrosockets in many a Tele and the Thinline was no different from any of them.  :dontknow:

 

[Cagey]

You do understand that the screws for the Electrosocket go in at an angle, right? They bite into the side of the hole, not parallel with the jack. This photo series shows a guy removing the old-fashioned Tele cup and installing an Electrosocket. Note how he's drilling the pilot holes in at an angle...

 

[Cagey]

Also, it appears not all Electrosockets come with the same screws...

The shorter screws might present more of a problem than the long ones do.

 

[pabloman]

It's not a Warmoth issue, is a design issue with Thinlines in general.

Which is why this is offered.
http://www.warmoth.com/Electro-Socket-style-Jackplate-with-Switchcraft-Jack-P1769C68.aspx




& technically, it's an "Output" jack.

Guitars receive no inbound signal except for the pickups themselves.

Technically if it's a female jack then it is an input jack. It is named for it's physical connection. Only once the component is functioning and installed should it be referred to as its electrical purpose. Imagine sourcing parts to build a pedal and trying to obtain a Switchcraft input jack and an output jack. Either way none of this is really useful to the OP who needed help.

 

[Cagey]

Or, you could call 'em plugs and sockets and leave everyone hanging as to signal direction. For example, there's a helluva lotta sockets of several different types on the back of this mixer, and without labels you'd have no idea which were inputs or outputs...

 

[bassetman]

I have 3 thinlines and three teles....all the cups fit fine electrosocket or standard all required some wood removal to fit perfectly. a picture of the issue would be so helpful.

 

[LoxFL]

After sending it back to Warmoth they confirmed there is a defect in their CNC machine and will be sending me a new body after about 6-8 weeks. So to be continued

 

[drod1985]

I would've kept that body for sure. The top was beautiful and and a Gibson style jackplate isn't the end of the world - I actually use them on my Teles instead of traditional Tele jacks because I need to use right angle cables occasionally. To each his own though. I hope the next body exceeds expectations!

 

[Verne Bunsen]

I would've kept that body for sure. The top was beautiful and and a Gibson style jackplate isn't the end of the world

That was my thought too, I’m keeping one eye on the Screaming Deals.....

 

[Cagey]

No doubt. I prefer the flat/square output jack plate, so much so that I replaced the Tele-style cup on one of my Teles.

 

[mayfly]

I would've kept that body for sure. The top was beautiful and and a Gibson style jackplate isn't the end of the world

That was my thought too, I’m keeping one eye on the Screaming Deals.....

Not if I get there first