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Skunk stripe on two-piece Vintage/Modern necks?No,thank you!

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Greetings!Does anyone know why the change?Vintage/Modern Strat necks with separate fingerboards used to be without the skunk stripe,with the truss rod adjustment nut at the body end of the neck.Why call the newer version Vintage/Modern?What's vintage about it?Unless you call 1970's,bullet truss rod,Micro-Tilt,three screw plates 'vintage'.We all know what the word 'vintage' stands for.I was perfectly happy ordering the old version.Maybe Warmoth should consider giving their customers the option:Skunk Stripe or NO Skunk Stripe for two-piece Vintage/Modern necks!I personally think the two-piece Fender neck with a skunk stripe and big-thick-headstock-bullet-truss-rod-nut the ugliest neck constructed,ever.Cost effective maybe,but ugly nonetheless.No elegance whatsoever.OK,there ARE people out there who really like big Strat headstocks,but they represent a minority,IMHO.

I've known Warmoth since the early 1990's and I'm fond of their quality products.As a luthier,I've built around 30 instruments using Warmoth necks and bodies exclusively.I feel sad having to order necks from the competition.
 
The 'total vintage' construction has what you want.
E.g. Maple back with RW board and no skunk stripe & truss rod adjustment at the heel...


Btw. I love the big CBS-style headstocks.
But I'm into Blackmore and YJM...
 
I feel sad trying to read that.  I don't agree or disagree with whatever points that may contain, but one of the first rules of getting your point across is clear communication. 

/minirant off

-Mark
 
Schneidas said:
The 'total vintage' construction has what you want.
E.g. Maple back with RW board and no skunk stripe & truss rod adjustment at the heel...

Yes,I am aware of those,but no 22 fret option.That's what's missing!

Btw. I love the big CBS-style headstocks.
But I'm into Blackmore and YJM...
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I have nothing against those guys,mind you.Blackmore was/is one of my heroes.Hendrix played big headstocks too.David Gilmour's Black Strat had a big headstock initially.In the late 60's and early 70's those were the latest models.But things started going South with thick urethane finishes,Mazac tremolo bridges,cast saddles,the Micro-Tilt thing,wide neck pockets...That's when people started realizing the difference between the old and the new.
 
Ok I see.
But then I find it strange, that you're minding the skunk stripe but want a 22 fretted board.
As far as I know, 21 frets are vintage. 22 frets are a relatively modern feature.
So the skunk stripe bothers you, but *not* the 22 frets on a vintage neck?
Personally, if I'd build a vintage Strat, the 22nd fret would bother me asthetically and it would hurt the *vintage* vibe... but that's just my opinion.

P.s. I'm not critizing you, I'm just saying... you want the vintage vibe/look (which Warmoth offers for hardcore vintage fans) but then you ask for a feature that's *not* vintage.

 
Hey Mucho,

Welcome to the board!

We have made some odd ball necks over the years and sold them on the Showcase, or "Thrift Shop" as it was called back in the day, but we've always made the Maple/Rosewood Vintage Modern necks officially with the skunk stripe - 99.99% sure anyhow.

The good news now is that we do offer multiple fingerboard radius options and back shapes on the Total Vintage necks now so you have more flexibility with that series. For that matter, may even be able to get a 22 fret Total Vintage neck, but I'd have to check into that.   :icon_biggrin:
 
that's one thing about W. they may not have it as an option just in the builder or showcase, but if you call them on the phone, they just might say "sure, we can do that for +$45". No guarantees, but there does seem to be a secret stash of options not listed on their site. Think of it as a treasure hunt. You have to get out your shovel and dig a little. "I know it isn't listed on your site, but could W do ____?" seems to be a question I ask often here on the forum. Sometimes I get a yes, sometimes a no, but often the answer is "just call them on the phone."
 
I love the rant that threatens to take business elsewhere if W doesn't start making such and such again.....when they never quit doing it in the first place.
 
be careful where you draw a line, you may have to not cross it.

one thing you learn when taking personnel courses is not to ever say anything you will not want to stand up to, or backup. Because you will have to.
that includes making an ultimatum.
It seems that once you know that it is a hobby to watch people do it just to see if they will stand up to things that make them the loser. Just because they said it.

I went to the grocery store the other day and they were out of a sales item so I asked for a rain check, they did not want to give me one so I told them that I would just go to their competitor to get it.
The manager told me that they would never give me the item for that price so I showed him in the paper  add that day that they had it for 3 cents less.  Like I said never toe a line you do not want to cross.  
 
There's a Jack in the Box I haven't been to in three years for similar reasons.  I didn't do the 'ole, "I'm never coming back," because frankly, who cares and they'll survive just fine without me.  I just haven't been back. 
 
Mucho was making his first post guys... I think he was just asking a regular question. You guys are going to scare people from posting.... :toothy11:
 
Sorry Gregg...but what was the question?  I saw a 20+ year Warmoth customer and 30 year "luthier" that assembles parts guitars get his product info confused, make an indirect ultimatum, slander those that like CBS headstocks, and make a stretched assumption that you're offering bullet truss rod adjusters.  All this in a 1st post with guns a blazin'.  I don't think we could scare him.
 
Gregg said:
You guys are going to scare people from posting.... :toothy11:
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I'm trying hard not to Gregg, but his first post comes across rather Kreig-ish....very opinionated and telling us that it's just not good enough for him.

There's barely a question within that first post or an offer to debate their views, merely a statement of sorts. So, OK, we take what this person says on board, now what? :tard:
 
Schneidas said:
Ok I see.
But then I find it strange, that you're minding the skunk stripe but want a 22 fretted board.
As far as I know, 21 frets are vintage. 22 frets are a relatively modern feature.
So the skunk stripe bothers you, but *not* the 22 frets on a vintage neck?
Personally, if I'd build a vintage Strat, the 22nd fret would bother me asthetically and it would hurt the *vintage* vibe... but that's just my opinion.

P.s. I'm not critizing you, I'm just saying... you want the vintage vibe/look (which Warmoth offers for hardcore vintage fans) but then you ask for a feature that's *not* vintage.
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i get what schneidas is saying here wanting one vintage option but then wanting a more modern option, clash of interests so to speak?  :dontknow: thats my on topic addition to the thread.

What i really wanted to say was to the scaring people, is that weve done it before..... we can do it again  :evil4:
Crossroads rip hehe

 
that is 30 plus instruments not 30 years, all bought from Warmoth
He should be back, after all it is the internet, by next week no one will care what anyone else said.  It is the nature of the beast. I mean a bunch of guys you never met, all claiming to be something hard to prove, typing in a forum living their dreams. It is amazing anyone gets along. You could say anything as you will never meet face to face.
But I will back down and watch it develop.
 
Jusatele said:
that is 30 plus instruments not 30 years, all bought from Warmoth
He should be back, after all it is the internet, by next week no one will care what anyone else said.  It is the nature of the beast. I mean a bunch of guys you never met, all claiming to be something hard to prove, typing in a forum living their dreams. It is amazing anyone gets along. You could say anything as you will never meet face to face.
But I will back down and watch it develop.
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On another forum in another interest category, I have met most of the forumites there and it is quite a funny thing that 6 years later most of us still socialise when our paths cross. Barring the odd hissy fit and handbags at 20 paces, we all respect the fact we hold different opinions ona subject near and dear to all of us. In fact, this weekend, I'll be spending a whole weekend with this bunch in another State of Australia.
So the internet can be as anonymous as you want to be or you can be a little honest with yourself and be real.

Here's the reason for the trip!
http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=39294

(On US Fox Soccer Channel 12:30Am Saturday night Eastern time - USA)
 
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