Schaller Floyd Rose Trem Nut Question

[metrodome]

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I'm building my first guitar and I want to put Schaller Floyd Rose tremolo on it, it comes with the locking nut, but I don't know if I still need to include a nut with the neck, or whether it's part of the locking nut. If I need a seperate nut, can I use the LSR roller nut with Schaller Floyd Rose locking nuts?

Thanks in advance.

If you're interested, here's my plan;

Maple Strat standard body, forearm, tummy and heel contours, H-S-H top and Schaller Floyd Rose tremolo routing with a brown shell pick guard, Warmoth Pro maple straight Strat neck with half scallopped ebony fret board, SS6115 fret wire, all matt black hardware and clear satin finish on body and neck, no finish on the fret board, DiMarzio pickups, 2 Air Nortons and a Virtual Solo in the middle... I think...

Any comments would be appreciated, like I say, it's my first full build project, the most I've done in the past is put new pickups on my Les Paul.

 

[Nando Vallart]

:help:

I'm building my first guitar and I want to put Schaller Floyd Rose tremolo on it, it comes with the locking nut, but I don't know if I still need to include a nut with the neck, or whether it's part of the locking nut. If I need a seperate nut, can I use the LSR roller nut with Schaller Floyd Rose locking nuts?

Thanks in advance.

Can is something, should is another... Yes, you can put a roller nut with Floyd, you would have to put locking tuners... what this mean: the guitar would get untunned faster... But you would not need to unlock the nut to tune it again... I would think it if you're not going to play Steve Vai and things that use F.R. 2/3 of the time... I would suggest the angled headstock too, but it's not avaiable with roller nut... Melvin Hiscock uses F.R. with normal nut and says it's ok in his book when the guitar has a good top nut and the strings are lined perfectly stright to the tuners (pg 104)...
I would try, but I'm not a shredder... would say that most of the F.R. players would say "no" to this...

 

[Nando Vallart]

Ah don't know, I would put at least a Rosewood fingerboard, looks to brightly to me...
I'm not a huge fan of DiMarzio  :sad:

 

[GoDrex]

can I use the LSR roller nut with Schaller Floyd Rose locking nuts?

no - a locking nut is just that - a nut. You don't need or want another nut with it. It is it's own nut.

 

[Nando Vallart]

no - a locking nut is just that - a nut. You don't need or want another nut with it. It is it's own nut.

:laughing7: Must sleep more, mis-reading everything  :icon_biggrin:

 

[metrodome]

Can is something, should is another... Yes, you can put a roller nut with Floyd, you would have to put locking tuners...

So I just get the neck with the roller nut and locking tuners and discard the FR locking nuts? That makes sense to me.

I'm not rich so I'm just trying to make sure I get it right, as much as possible, first time.

Someone suggested I get the Fender BadAss bridge instead, any thoughts on this?

 

[elgravos]

If you really want a floyd then you should really go the double locking route.  That means a floyd bridge and a schaller locking nut. 

If you're thinking of going LSR + locking tuners then you probably don't need a floyd - go for a wilkinson trem - the Floyd is overkill.

On the other hand if you think you need a floyd, then you need a locking nut.  No doubt about it.  I've only ever heard of 2 people who use Floyds without a top lock.  That's 2 out of many 100s of people who do use a locking nut.  That said, if you want to be truly original, then follow your chosen path - but you will be walking pretty much alone!

Cheers.

 

[DocNrock]

I have little experience with the Wilkinson, but I know the Floyd.  I don't think the Wilkie will dive bomb to slack strings like the Floyd will.  That said, and LSR works with a Wilkinson since you don't have to worry about the strings coming off the rollers in a deep dive.  That is why the Floyd nut is a locking nut.  You can dive until the strings hang off of the guitar, let the trem back up, and voila, you're still in tune and the strings haven't moved out of their nut slots, or grooves, or rollers, or whatever.

Floyd trem = Floyd locking nut, period.

Does this help?

 

[metrodome]

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Yes this all helps very much, thank you

 

[Nando Vallart]

Doc is right... If you're going to use it in a severe playing, it has...

The case I said is if you were going to use it as a vibrato and bending, not bombing like Dimebag Darrell :laughing7:

 

[kreig]

i own a Schaller FR ... the locking nut is part of the whole system . double check before ordering . remember they have different nut sizes. have warmoth do ALL the work on the routes and nut install. let the pro's do the hard work . there's plenty of work left for you to do !
shell out a couple extra bux for the deep/double FR route from Warmoth and for a FULL scallop fretboard.

you can thank me later ...

this is the path to guitar-building enlightenment . :sign13: