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Risks of not finishing a neck?

waygorked

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Greetings,

I'm in the middle of my first Warmoth build, a swamp ash telecaster with a birdseye maple neck, Callaham bridge, Fralin stock pickups, and Gotoh locking tuners. I'm having an unholy experience with this guitar, and it's making me worried. I had all of my parts appear before christmas, and put it together as a test build to see how everything fit together. All the Warmoth bits were perfect, and everything else (like the bakelite pickguard from some ebay seller) sucked. I threw on a set of strings, put maybe 3 minutes into tweaking the rod and saddles, and hit my first chord...

And was totally floored.

Out of the box, with not anywhere close to the level of tweaking I've always had to put into any and all guitars, this thing was perfect. The 59 roundback felt like the neck I'l been searching my adult life for, the 10-16 radius made the action phenomenal, there was absolutely no need to even consider dressing the frets, and the guitar absolutely sang. I tried one of the Earvana graphtech nuts as well, and have never had a guitar that has such good intonation everywhere (that includes my hyperexpensive PRS).

Now, my problem. I can't stop playing it. I have not taken it outside the house, nor do I plan to, and I'm keeping it away from windows and opportunities for significant temperature fluctuations. I know I need to get on with finishing at least the neck soon, but my window of time for doing this is has largely closed. I'm not going to risk doing anything in the garage until the temperature stabilizes, and with my schedule I'm having real difficulty finding the time to rig my spare room as somewhere I can finish the neck, much less having the time to actually do it. I have a hard time seeing how I'm going to be able to do it up properly until maybe April. I know all about the warranty stuff, and as much as I'm digging the raw feel, I know it needs to get stabilized. Is that too long to wait?

Cheers!
 
Okay, don't do what I did. Take the guitar apart, and set it aside. Your hand oils will get into the maple, making finishing impossibly/nearly so.
 
Don't do it man. Get the neck finished, it's maple.

You want to go raw, get a canary one or something next time. It sounds like you've got a great guitar that you'll want to keep for a long time. Talk to Tonar from the forums here, he'll put a light satin finish on it for you for a reasonable cost and you'll both protect the neck and maintain most of the raw feel.
 
Give it a good light sanding / scrub down and you can easily do a wipe-on finish with various products, no spraying, you just need someplace to hang it up for a few weeks.
 
Question, how many of you have really had an unfinished maple neck warp on you? My Frankenstrat has an unfinished maple neck for 5+ yrs now. Still straight as the day I got it. And it gets played, sweaty hands and all.  :icon_scratch:
 
Death by Uberschall said:
Question, how many of you have really had an unfinished maple neck warp on you? My Frankenstrat has an unfinished maple neck for 5+ yrs now. Still straight as the day I got it. And it gets played, sweaty hands and all.  :icon_scratch:

Could depend heavily on the neck cosntruction. Based on what I've seen with the Warmoth Pro truss rod neck construction, those never seem to even move at all much after initial setup, my oldest is about 5 years and I've never had to readjust it. If it is a Warmoth Pro you could take your chances, but remember that if it warps out too much to readjust, you're SOL warranty-wise.

I just have a couple of Vintage Modern or Total Vintage necks, those DO need seasonal adjustments and I would strongly advise putting some form of hard finish on those.
 
Death by Uberschall said:
Question, how many of you have really had an unfinished maple neck warp on you? My Frankenstrat has an unfinished maple neck for 5+ yrs now. Still straight as the day I got it. And it gets played, sweaty hands and all.  :icon_scratch:
Good point, I have several all maple necks, with nothing but a light coat of gunstock oil, and mine are straight as the day I set them up...

Ernie Ball did it with their Axis model and EVH sig model....So..... :dontknow:
 
I dunno.... last time someone tried to use an unfinished neck... we hadda call the Ghostbusters.....
 
Here's my thoughts:

Maple necks are cheap compared to exotics. If you take care of it, it shouldn't turn into a disaster down the road. If something did happen, just replace it. Consider it a tool that's replaceable. If you like the raw feel, go for it.

But since there is the chance it could warp, I understand Warmoth's warranty position on them, it's just smart business.
 
There is no guarantee it will ever warp w/out a finish, just a higher probability that it will.  I do have an MIJ Strat from the early 90s.  It hasn't had a finish on it since '97 and no worries.  Warpage isn't the only thing a finish protects.  Maple is also prone to growing fungus (applied and grown from skin oils).  I have never seen this phenom 1st hand and have only heard of it.

If you likethe raw feel, leave it and live a little.  It's just money afterall.  Eventually it will develope an oil finish from your hands from use. 
 
instead of starting a new thread, I am just going to ask it here 'cause it fits...

What is considered a "hard finish".  Can I just put some Minwax poly?  Ya know, the kind in the can that gets rubbed on.  Is this an approved finish?

Thanks
 
In my best guess, a hard finish would be one that dries or cures and does not need to be re-applied.  Lemon Oil would not be a hard finish whereas Tru-Oil would be.  Also, the thickness or number of coats might be a pre-requisite as well.  One coat of Tru-oil wouldn't be adequate to satisfy the hard finish warranty requirement, IMO. 

As for the Minwax Poly, dunno.
 
I'll call tomorrow, I like the feel of the unfineshed necks, but I can't risk it.  To pricey!  6 string Gecko neck, flame maple!  Not your standard strat neck!
 
Humidity where you live and amount and type of hand sweat are two big factors really - but in general if you don't want to take a risk there are many nice products that will not require spraying. Tru oil, tung oil, wipe on poly, danish oil, etc. I believe it needs to be urethane based to honor the warmoth warrantly, but they're probably being overcautious in the case of tung oil - Carvin for instance will sell you a tung oil finished neck with a warranty, so it can't be useless stuff. Personally I like minwax wipe on satin poly. Easy, fast, cheap, cures quickly, feels nice in hand. Good product.
 
I just got this email from Warmoth, regarding finishes on maple necks. 


Hello-



Thanks for your question.



The finishes that we do are certainly approved and the best way to go to validate your warranty. We cannot recommend using other materials not used by Warmoth. True oil or other hard finishes should work well for maple.



Hope this helps.



Respectfully,

Jason Lillie

Warmoth Guitar Products Inc.

Email: jason@warmoth.com

Website: www.warmoth.com

Phone: (253)845-0403

You should also check out www.unofficialwarmoth.com

 
A little vintage amber tint and 2 coats of tru oil over the weekend, and problem solved. The neck feels great, and looks even better.
 
I probably should start a new thread for this, but what the heck, I'll give it a shot here first:

How about an unfinished body?

Any risk to getting an unfinished Warmoth body and not painting it, or doing anything to it other than building it up & playing the crap out of it?

I'm thinking of a swamp ash P-Bass body, and I don't really care if it gets discolored due to hand oils...but I don't want the thing to rot away or warp irreparably or turn to a pile of stinky fungus or whatever happens to unfinished wood.

Any ideas?  Thanks.
 
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