Retro Rockets - Anyone tried these?

[bbl4ck]

I am starting on a Firebird with a string-thru body and came across these string ferrules by Glendale.
I know that Glendale puts out quality stuff, but I am wondering if anyone has tried these Retro Rockets.

They claim to "add sustain, brilliance, and improve over all tone."   :icon_scratch:  
However, so do many, many other products out there that are likely a waste of money.

At $27.50, they are substantially more expensive than the ferrules from Warmoth.
I would gladly shell out the $$ if they truly made a difference, but I am just a bit leery as to how much difference they could make.

Anybody tried them or have any thoughts???

Thanks for your time &  :rock-on:

 

[stubhead]

This is almost beyond ridicule, no? Well OK:

You can choose from titanium, brass, cold rolled steel, and aluminum sets or you can mix and match to achieve your own personal sound. For example; aluminum for the low E/A strings, cold rolled steel for the D/G strings, and brass for the high B/E strings.  The brass removes harsh overtones from the high strings and adds harmonic richness. The titanium is very well balanced and is a  little brighter than brass,  it also removes harsh overtones from the high strings and adds harmonic richness.

You can turn down the treble, too... If you don't like - love - CRAVE harsh overtones, you have NO BUSINESS playing a Telecaster, girlyman.

Titanium works very good on all six strings.

After you've squandered $50, you'll damn sure hear what you want to hear.

The aluminum tightens up the low end giving more punch and a touch more volume.

Hey! What's this knob on my amp labeled "volume" do, anyway? Let's give it a whirl.... :icon_scratch: They seem to have left off the page with the result of the oscilloscope & frequency analysis testing - that stuff you do to reach ACTUAL CONCLUSIONS? I'm sure they'll publish it soon.

 

[bbl4ck]

You can choose from titanium, brass, cold rolled steel, and aluminum sets or you can mix and match to achieve your own personal sound. For example; aluminum for the low E/A strings, cold rolled steel for the D/G strings, and brass for the high B/E strings.  The brass removes harsh overtones from the high strings and adds harmonic richness. The titanium is very well balanced and is a  little brighter than brass,  it also removes harsh overtones from the high strings and adds harmonic richness.

You can turn down the treble, too... If you don't like - love - CRAVE harsh overtones, you have NO BUSINESS playing a Telecaster, girlyman.

:laughing11: :laughing7: :laughing11:

 

[-CB-]

.....allowing more vibration through the guitar, adding sustain, brilliance.....

Here again, folks, we have techno-babble double speak.  The more vibrating the guitar does, the less sustain its going to have.  Let me repeat that for the sake of Mr W.L. Polsfuss, Waukesha WI.... The more vibrating the guitar does, the less sustain its going to have.  If one were to compare a nice lively and loud acoustic guitar, put the same strings on something like... a log...  you'd instantly see that the less energy that goes into making things connected to the string vibrate, the more energy the string has to keep on vibrating - which is the definition of sustain.

Do they sound different... hell if I know.  Not for the reason stated, that much I can tell you.  In fact, for the opposite of what is stated, if it happens at all.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

"...allowing more vibration to the guitar, adding sustain."  If the strings are allowed to vibrate the body more, doesn't sustain decrease?  I'm sure it's a neat product, but any advantage I feel would be neglible.  It's available in 3 materials, but the selling point is the shape of the cut that allows for better ball-end string placement.  Don't Fender Bullets claim the same thing by changing the shape of the ball end?  This might be better suited for the Eric Johnson, discriminating tastes player.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Sorry for the redundant post CB.  When I posted, I got the "another reply has been posted while you were typing" message.

 

[-CB-]

Sorry for the redundant post CB.  When I posted, I got the "another reply has been posted while you were typing" message.

Great minds.... heheheheheh

 

[OzziePete]

Me thinks that Glendale might have done their ad a lot better service to the intended market by highlighting good machining and exacting manufacturing tolerances, than some intangible, possibly suss concept as their product improving things like volume, treble, sustain or bass response. :icon_thumright:

 

[JaySwear]

too bad they're so much more expensive. whether they provide anything extra for the guitar is definitely debatable (or laughable) but they DO look cool

 

[-CB-]

So they are a thick walled cup, as opposed to the thinner wall of the standard cup.  Big effin deal......!~

The stress applied to the bridge, and the bottom of the cup.  I dont see the advantage - especially if your little ball thing is a tad oversize

 

[tfarny]

I think you just need countersink routing to get the normal ferrules flush with the back - something I do wish Warmoth offered.

 

[Superbeast520]

This stuff is fricken great....lol :laughing7:  Its like the simpler they make a product the more complex the reason you need it....lol  personally I would prefer my strings deeper in the Ferrules not sure why I feel that way...just do...lol  

I do wish Warmoth offered  counter sunk or sunken ferruels as well......it would be easier to slide my guitar across the floor without catching on anything...lol   sounds like a good marketing angle already...lol

Yes I see it already...My countersunk ferrules offer the finest tone enhancement available to man, do to their specific depth and counter sink (which was perfected in the science of sounds and vibrations) Our Ferrules allow the guitars strings to vibrate at the "unheard by human ears frequency range" that is guaranteed to drive your neighbors dog nuts and all the while providing you with unparramounted tone for the ages....hehehe :laughing7:

 

[back2thefutre]

I usually go for anything claiming to provide better tone, but I wouldn't buy these. But just get 'em if you want 'em dude. You'll be the only one around that has them.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I'm sure in a labratory and with an osciliscope these may do what they claim, but seldom is any venue or living room ever the perfect room, so my gear need not be perfect (just close enough).  Hell, my gear is nicer than my ability to play it already.  In the end, you still have to play your guitar and the total tone secret is not how deep the cut, the material, or shape of ferule.  Do strings with brass ball ends sound different than stainless?  I'm sure they do, but so what.  "Yeah he was a good player, but his ferrules needed to brass," will NEVER be uttered by me.  However, obsessive compulsive tonefreaks eat that stuff up, and kudos to Glendale for capitalizing on that.  The thread about a CNC robbing the tone qualities of wood....what's next?  "I only want bodies that were harvested on leap year during a full moon and will only buy pickups wound during the Autumnal Equinox."

 

[OzziePete]

 However, obsessive compulsive tonefreaks eat that stuff up, and kudos to Glendale for capitalizing on that.  The thread about a CNC robbing the tone qualities of wood....what's next?  "I only want bodies that were harvested on leap year during a full moon and will only buy pickups wound during the Autumnal Equinox."

Northern or Southern Hemisphere? :icon_biggrin:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Either.  It gives me more oppurtunities to buy them.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Speaking of obsessive compulsive tonefreaks, copper is an excellent conductor but it is not the best.  Aluminum is cheaper, but doesn't conduct as well.  Gold and silver are far better, and obviously more expensive.  Has anyone ever come across any pickups wound in silver or gold wire?  With Schaller finishing in Ruthenium, it can't be that far fetched.

Schaller quote:

"Ruthenium is an extremely hard, shiny metal and is found in association with platinum ores. It is very rare; no more than 120 kilograms are produced per year. This accounts for the high cost of ruthenium; it is more expensive than both gold and platinum."

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

I thought gold was 'The Best'. As in you could get no better.  :icon_scratch:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I thought gold was 'The Best'. As in you could get no better.  :icon_scratch:

For all of their qualities, there are drawbacks.  With gold and silver it's price.  I haven't counted valance electrons, but platinum may be better.  Of course if Tesla made pickups, they wouldn't even have wire.

 

[-CB-]

1. Silver is the best
2. Its been done - but with silver alloy wire.  Pure silver is far too soft