*Pics added* LSR Roller Nut + Floyd

[fdesalvo]

Just another PSA. My posts are becoming more kurt due to being a new dad.  Know this:

The LSR/Floyd is an OUTSTANDING combo!  Tuning is just as stable. Strings do not pop out of the nut at full slack and return to pitch is flawless. I took a chance and am not regretting it at all. Never going back.

 

[stratamania]

Very good. Are you using the non-fine tuner Floyd?

 

[Cagey]

The LSR/Floyd is an OUTSTANDING combo!  Tuning is just as stable. Strings do not pop out of the nut at full slack and return to pitch is flawless. I took a chance and am not regretting it at all. Never going back. 

I'm glad that worked out for you. I've been saying the same thing for years. The only reason the locking nut exists is because there were no such things as locking tuners when Floyd came up with his design. But, those in combination with a well-cut nut or an LSR work great with any vibrato bridge.

 

[stratamania]

If only they made an LSR type nut in 1 5/8" does anyone know of one?

 

[Cagey]

I've never seen them. They also don't make them in gold or black.

 

[stratamania]

I've never seen them. They also don't make them in gold or black.

No me neither. Gold or black would also be useful.

 

[Cagey]

If memory serves, Fender started putting Wilkinson's roller nut on the first "American Standard Ultra" Strats...

...then within a year or two I think they got too many complaints about them, so they (or their assigns) came up with the LSR, which they've used ever since. Since it was designed by or for them, it was only ever configured to fit that neck and hardware finish. Of course, since then, other people in the aftermarket use them, but I don't think that was ever the intent, so it was never fleshed out into a full-line offering. But, I'm just guessing.

 

[fdesalvo]

KG once again, you nailed it.

Strat. Using a Gotoh 1996T with fine tuners.  Comes in handy for capo duty with these taller frets.  Really sick combo. Pics soon.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Additionally, along with a well done nut & locking tuners, a headstock with straight pull to the tuners will do wonders.
Put one of these on a Jackson or Kramer headstock, and tuning is out the window.

 

[Cagey]

That's true. The price of form over function.

 

[fdesalvo]

 

[Cagey]

Looks fantastic! Great job!

 

[fdesalvo]

Thanks man!  Too bad your way over there.  I could use your legendary fretsmanship!

 

[Cagey]

I was gonna say something, but didn't want to detract from the overall goodness of the thing  :icon_biggrin:

I'm here when you need me, and you know where I live. I could use the work.

 

[fdesalvo]

Haha I was waiting on something like, “So, how do you like playing on those power lines??”

Would you need the whole shebang or just the neck?

 

[Cagey]

Just the neck. I almost always have bodies and when I don't, I have a "dummy" body so I can put it on the neck jig for final tweaking.

On the other hand, if I have the whole shebang, I can do the bridge/pickup adjustments as well. Costs a little more in shipping, but you get back a gig-ready guitar.

 

[fdesalvo]

Roger.  I’ll hit ya up.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

refresh me on the retro to accommodate the Gotoh in the Floyd hole.

 

[fdesalvo]

The Gotoh is sitting in an OFR route on the Shaller studs, if I remember correctly.  I wanted the Gotoh mocking studs in there, but W wasn’t able to drill them. They are 1mm larger in diameter and would be very close to the wall, if not touching. I think there’s a way to get em in, but I haven’t seen anyone attempt. 

Another thing to consider is I had to sand away a bit of wood around the middle of the bridge route to accommodate the 1996t. The baseplate was striking the top of the guitar and I actually chipped a little of the clear when test fitting.  I used a little superglue to repair the chip, but it wasn’t perfect.  If the route was cut pre paint, there’s no way it would have fit. 

 

[Cagey]

I've had similar problems in the past. Warmoth cuts their Floyd Rose relief cavities squeaky close. I'm surprised we don't see more bitching on the forum about it.