Original Floyd Rose-Licensed

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Damnit, i can't find one that is cheap (under 110 bucks(or less)) In black and Licensed.

Help?  :help:

 

[DocNrock]

I know you're saving to build this guitar, but please don't get a cheap floyd copy.  You'll hate it and it will detract big time from your build.  Save enough for a Schaller, at least.

 

[m4rk0]

I heard that the GFS ones are not too bad..
they are single locking though, but it looks like they are licensed by FR and only $65

http://store.guitarfetish.com/blflroflotrs.html

I am planning to use it for the restauration of an old 80s partsocaster..

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Schaller Floyd Rose's are cheaper, but not by much, in warmoth.

Also, i want to put higher gauge strings in it. Which one would handle it better?

 

[SrDeMaFp]

Schaller Floyd Rose's are cheaper, but not by much, in warmoth.

Also, i want to put higher gauge strings in it. Which one would handle it better?

Either one works but, go Schaller ATLEAST. I couldn't recommend an OFR enough, though.

 

[Orpheo]

Schaller Floyd Rose's are cheaper, but not by much, in warmoth.

Also, i want to put higher gauge strings in it. Which one would handle it better?

Either one works but, go Schaller ATLEAST. I couldn't recommend an OFR enough, though.

if a gotoh fits; use that one. is even better than OFR. eventhough I suggest an OFR over a schaller. schaller uses the same templates as they did 20 years ago, and the parts are becoming nowadays a bit sloppy.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

So a gotoh is Better than a OFR or a SFR?

If i got that i'd need to buy hat and Planet Waves locking Tuners?

 

[Orpheo]

So a gotoh is Better than a OFR or a SFR?

If i got that i'd need to buy hat and Planet Waves locking Tuners?

if you wanna do divebombs, which I think you want to, you need the locking nut. the locking tuners make it easier to change strings, but doesnt really matter with a floyd imho.

the gotoh is indeed, imho, better. better materials, and the angle of the saddles are a bit different I believe, which makes the bridge better (and better knifes). but I dont think this trem can fit on the warmoth- floyd rout. its just a minor difference, so take theOFR. but DONT take the SFR. that thing is, imho, really crap.


ok. now why a locking NUT gives you divebomb capability.

with a normal trem, even if its a floyd without locking nut, there's a couple of inches of string behind the nut. when you dive, this part of the string will have to move to. even the OFR can't dive so much that this string-residue can relax so much that the strings just flab arond the fingerboard (something we all know you can do with a floyd+lock nut). on the other hand; if you do a pull up, you have to get more tension to the excess string behind the nut aswell, so pull ups can't go as high as wth the locking nut.

also, the nut itself gives a bit of friction. even if you have the best cut nut in the world; it has friction. the locknut eliminates this.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Ah, right.


But seriously now. I just got this email from a few guys i know. i could be getting exactly what i want for about 1 grand cheaper at carvin with a glue in neck. What i think i'll do now is buy that from the custom shop part of carvin ( with more knob routes) take out the electrics, or keep some and put what now i have decided that i want in a FR fitted Les paul style guitar.

So instead of building a whole guitar from Warmoth, i'll just get Some parts from there. Not trying to be a traitor or anything, i'm just trying to save money.

 

[Orpheo]

Ah, right.


But seriously now. I just got this email from a few guys i know. i could be getting exactly what i want for about 1 grand cheaper at carvin with a glue in neck. What i think i'll do now is buy that from the custom shop part of carvin ( with more knob routes) take out the electrics, or keep some and put what now i have decided that i want in a FR fitted Les paul style guitar.

So instead of building a whole guitar from Warmoth, i'll just get Some parts from there. Not trying to be a traitor or anything, i'm just trying to save money.

carvin's sound dead compared with warmoth les pauls.

besides: this is a litte list:

body: 340
lacquer: 220
neck: 390 (no finish required; wenge/ebony I chose now)
tuners: 50
bridge: 175
pots and little stuff: 60
pickups: 190
total:1425

you;re telling me you can get a carvin for 425$? if so: where?!

edit;ofcourse, the guitar is more expensive because you want to have a floyd.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Well, not exactally 1 grand about 500-600 bucks

Why isn't the sound as good?

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Floyd Rose & Locking Nut 
Mahogany Body
Black Gloss Back & Sides
Clear Gloss Finish 
Blackburst Edges
Mahogany Neck w/ 2 Maple Stripes
Clear Satin Finish Back Of Neck
Carved Top Headstock
Flamed Maple Headstock
Rosewood Fingerboard
Abalone Dot Inlays
Jumbo Frets .055" H .110" W
12in Fretboard Radius
M22SD Bridge Pickup
M22V Neck Pickup
Cream/Black Coils w/ Black Bezels
Black Hardware
Abalone Logo
Dunlop Straplocks


This came straight from the Carvin site. I'm going to replace the pickups and try to make use of the electrics there.

Now that would wale.

 

[Orpheo]

Well, not exactally 1 grand about 500-600 bucks

Why isn't the sound as good?

carvin's are nice when it comes to playabillity and finish, but they sound as dull as an epiphone les paul. I've tried 10 carvins, ranging from 1000$ up until 3000$! all the same dull, boring sound. i'd almost say musky, dusty sound. not vibrant, not sprankly, let alone punch, attack, growl, or agressive. warmoth's have that, though. Were you are now; been there done that. I also thought of having a carvin, due to nice looks and low pricing, but its just bad. it plays great, but sounds bad and yeah, I play heavy metal too. zakk wylde, iron maiden, pantera, CoB, that kinda stuff.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Well thats all good and well but i'd love to build a warmoth but waiting for the money to build one at my age sucks and i just want to  buy a good sounding LP with a rosewood finger board, wenge neck, Mahogany back, flamed maple top that i can chuck a D activator bridge and a d activator x neck in.

 

[Orpheo]

Floyd Rose & Locking Nut 
Mahogany Body
Black Gloss Back & Sides
Clear Gloss Finish 
Blackburst Edges
Mahogany Neck w/ 2 Maple Stripes
Clear Satin Finish Back Of Neck
Carved Top Headstock
Flamed Maple Headstock
Rosewood Fingerboard
Abalone Dot Inlays
Jumbo Frets .055" H .110" W
12in Fretboard Radius
M22SD Bridge Pickup
M22V Neck Pickup
Cream/Black Coils w/ Black Bezels
Black Hardware
Abalone Logo
Dunlop Straplocks


This came straight from the Carvin site. I'm going to replace the pickups and try to make use of the electrics there.

Now that would wale.

I have no idea how you came up with cheaper than warmoth, cause this is what I got:

Base Model Options Quantity Price
   CS6C
Right Handed
Floyd Rose Tremolo    1 $1,459.00


 LN - Floyd Rose Locking Nut $25.00
 -NMAH - Mahogany Neck & Body (Standard) $0.00
 BGB - Black Gloss Back & Sides $20.00
 -CG - Clear Gloss Finish (Standard) $0.00
 FDS6 - Deep Sunset Burst Flame $0.00
 BST - Blackburst Edges $25.00
 5M - Maple Neck w/ 2 Koa Stripes $120.00
 CSN - Clear Satin Finish Back Of Neck $50.00
 -CTH - Carved Top Headstock (Standard) $0.00
 FPH4 - Flamed Maple Headstock $0.00
 -EB - Ebony Fingerboard (Standard) $0.00
 -ABD - Abalone Dot Inlays (Standard) $0.00
 6100 - Jumbo Frets .055" H .110" W $15.00
 -R12 - 12in Fretboard Radius (Standard) $0.00
 35 - M22SD Bridge Pickup $5.00
 39 - M22V Neck Pickup $5.00
 406 - Cream/Black Coils w/ Black Bezels $5.00
 BC - Black Hardware $20.00
 -46 - Elixer 1046E Light Gauge .010 - .046 (Standard) $0.00
 ABL - Abalone Logo $30.00
 SL - Dunlop Straplocks $10.00
 SL - Dunlop Straplocks $10.00
 HC12 - Vintage Tweed Hardshell Case $74.00
 Guitar Total:  $1,873.00
 

1873$ vs. 1425. and thats with an OFR at warmoth's, a rosewood or wenge neckback, ebony board (at carvin's, ebony is as expensive as rosewood )

oh, and you get a case with carvin. well, wow.

 

[Orpheo]

Well thats all good and well but i'd love to build a warmoth but waiting for the money to build one at my age sucks and i just want to  buy a good sounding LP with a rosewood finger board, wenge neck, Mahogany back, flamed maple top that i can chuck a D activator bridge and a d activator x neck in.

i know what you mean, trust me. I've been 13 too! Hell, I've even been 14!

but just think of this: would you like to have an 'ok' axe, and keep thinking the rest of your life when you play it; damn, I wish I bought the other, because of xxxx and all the warnings I got?

or would you like to settle for a cheap instant fix right now?

if so, I suggest you take a look at

www.musoland.com.cn

Dont settle for cheap, because it's cheap. I know guys who have 7 carvin's, but sold them all just for warmoth's. With me the same. I had gibson customshop guitars, but sold them for warmoth les pauls. Maybe that can put things in perspective?

oh, and one thing; carvin wont offer several neckshapes. is very important to me too by the way

I'm not forcing you, if you might feel or think lke that. I just want to give you all the knowhow, knowledge and options.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

I love your sarcasm.

But i thought it was a whole lot cheaper at carvin.  I was wrong

But still i want cheaper which is really hard to find.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

How does this site sell these guitars so cheap?

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

It'd be a bit cheaper if i got a flat top, but the sound, will it changed dramatically?

 

[Orpheo]

It'd be a bit cheaper if i got a flat top, but the sound, will it changed dramatically?

yeah, just a bit cheaper. I believe 100$. it will surely change your sound. Its like a flying V vs. a les paul (because the Vee is also flat) a carved top makes a lot of difference. Try in a guitarstore, if you can find it, the les paul faded special; flat top, mahogany, 2 humbuckers. and compare it with a les paul with same humbuckers,but with a carved top.


as said; dont try to be TOO cheap.