alterbridgefan
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Similar to carvin's, but with warmoth choice and quality. Discuss?
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Fender and whoever else Warmoth has licenses from might look at that as a slippery slope tilting toward manufacturing instruments, and not look kindly on it. They're a replacement parts company, not a kit or instrument builder.
They're clearly capable of manufacturing some stellar parts, and all it would take is a couple more employees and some bench space and they could turn out some incredible instruments. But, if it costs them their replacement neck/body business, where would they be? Everybody and their brother makes guitars. Hell, everybody on this forum makes guitars. Believe me, there's little or no money in it and generally a loss. Check out eBay. $1,500 Warmoths regularly sell for $600-$700 new, if they sell at all. Carvins are the same way.
Get Eric Clapton, Eric Johnson, Al DiMeola, Jimmy Page, Slash, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai et al to start playing Warmoths in public, then get your time machine in serviceable shape and change what Jimi Hendrix, SRV, Ronnie James Dio, et al played and things might change.
They're clearly capable of manufacturing some stellar parts, and all it would take is a couple more employees and some bench space and they could turn out some incredible instruments. But, if it costs them their replacement neck/body business, where would they be? Everybody and their brother makes guitars. Hell, everybody on this forum makes guitars. Believe me, there's little or no money in it and generally a loss. Check out eBay. $1,500 Warmoths regularly sell for $600-$700 new, if they sell at all. Carvins are the same way.
Get Eric Clapton, Eric Johnson, Al DiMeola, Jimmy Page, Slash, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai et al to start playing Warmoths in public, then get your time machine in serviceable shape and change what Jimi Hendrix, SRV, Ronnie James Dio, et al played and things might change.
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If you're dead set on a neck through, and want a project with the fingerboard/fretwork done for you - check out Carvin - they sell necks - not as many options as Warmoth, but AFAIK it's the only game in town for a semi-retail neck
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Musikraft makes set neck guitars to spec and don't have any problems with their fender license I don't see why warmoth couldn't do the same. If they started offering set neck or neck thru options I'd be signing over my pay checks to them.
Would love a 70s telecaster deluxe neck thru!
Would love a 70s telecaster deluxe neck thru!
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They can do many things but they don't want to because there is a small company and they have lots of customers already. If next year Fender is out of fashion and everyone wants a neck through guitar they will do it to stay in the market. Warmoth is a very Fender based company, the sooner you 'll realize this the sooner you 'll stop wondering about these things. They have paid for their license, Fender always sold and will sell, so it's a good recipe.ProfessorInkyBubbles said:
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Altar said:
Honestly, it's kinda absurd to suggest this: it's a different manufacturing process, different tooling, shipping would be more expensive. If anyone is going to the point of assembling a neck-through, why not build the whole thing? That's totally different from Warmoth's business model.
Also: Carvin isn't exactly having a raging success with their neck throughs, they're just making them en masse because they're using the same necks in their own assembled guitars. I don't know of any other manufacturer [ie - not a total custom shop] that even sells neck-throughs.
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What kind of neck and/or body can they sell you seems the most relevant discussion. Neck thru, set neck, acoustic, or finished guitar ain't gonna happen. It's been pondered ad nauseum.
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What I don't get is why there is only one style that goes with the gecko neck pocket. Has this been discussed?
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You mean like http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Kits/Acoustic_Guitar_Kits/Dreadnought_Guitar_Kit.html
Honestly, that's the functional equivalent. What's the point of a kit in the first place? At least from the manufacturer's viewpoint - you sell components, allowing the customer to supply labor. With bolt on electric guitars, yeah, you can supply an Almost Ready to Fly guitar the customer can assemble and set up. Finish and setup are the two areas where the manufacturer will save money reflected in the price. With an acoustic guitar, there's a bazillion glue/clamp/scrape repeat steps. It's cool for us to be able to do projects that we can invest a little bit of effort into making unique, but if the manufacturer has to do almost as much work as for a finished retail guitar, and sell it at a reduced price - there's no motive. (And no fun for us either).
I don't feel cheated missing out on the routing of an electric guitar, because functionally it's a slab of wood that needs to hold components. But I don't really get the point of trying to bolt on a neck to a glued and finished acoustic guitar body. If that's what makes you happy buy one of these and take it apart every other weekend.
http://www.voyageairguitar.com/
Honestly, that's the functional equivalent. What's the point of a kit in the first place? At least from the manufacturer's viewpoint - you sell components, allowing the customer to supply labor. With bolt on electric guitars, yeah, you can supply an Almost Ready to Fly guitar the customer can assemble and set up. Finish and setup are the two areas where the manufacturer will save money reflected in the price. With an acoustic guitar, there's a bazillion glue/clamp/scrape repeat steps. It's cool for us to be able to do projects that we can invest a little bit of effort into making unique, but if the manufacturer has to do almost as much work as for a finished retail guitar, and sell it at a reduced price - there's no motive. (And no fun for us either).
I don't feel cheated missing out on the routing of an electric guitar, because functionally it's a slab of wood that needs to hold components. But I don't really get the point of trying to bolt on a neck to a glued and finished acoustic guitar body. If that's what makes you happy buy one of these and take it apart every other weekend.
http://www.voyageairguitar.com/
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