Neck decoding help

[Scooterdog]

First post as I’m new to Warmoth. I’m looking at a used Warmoth neck and would appreciate any insight from those who know how to decode the numbers written on the heel. It’s stamped “Warmoth Radius” so I assume it’s 10-16 radius. And 6105 must be the fret wire. But what about the neck carve or the nut width? Do these numbers say?

 

[JacobJames]

First post as I’m new to Warmoth. I’m looking at a used Warmoth neck and would appreciate any insight from those who know how to decode the numbers written on the heel. It’s stamped “Warmoth Radius” so I assume it’s 10-16 radius. And 6105 must be the fret wire. But what about the neck carve or the nut width? Do these numbers say?


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Yes, 6105 nickel fret wire. WT is white tusq nut material. The green handwriting is nut width. 1.706, little over spec 1-11/16”. Judging by the ink stamps, looks like an older neck. As for the neck back, could be a standard thin, fat or boat. The rest of our back shapes get a branded punch stamp on the heel. Hope this helps!

 

[Scooterdog]

Thank you Jake. VERY helpful!

 

[Scooterdog]

I also have numbers written in the neck pocket. 4.13 and vip48. I know it’s a VIP body, but am unclear what 48 or 4.13 might mean.

 

[Spud]

The 4.13 is a perennial Warmoth inside joke as it is a clever rearrangement of pi and meant to beguile the more neanderthal amongst us.

 

[Rick]

4.13 ... weight? Have you weighed it? I can't recall seeing weight marked on a body ... so it must be old.

 

[mayfly]

I think it's kina cool that folks are trying to decode old warmoth neck markings. Up until now, people only did that with old fender necks (oh yes, this neck was made in july 1956 and was inspected by Louis XXIX. It would make a lovely pairing with a fine burgundy, er I mean a blond telecaster body)

 

[supertruper1988]

Tovares Gomez necks are the only ones I play /s

 

[Rick]

What's Tovares?

 

[supertruper1988]

What's Tovares?

Oops I mean Tadeo Gomez

https://www.tdpri.com/attachments/screenshot_20231002-125119-2-png.1169292/

 

[supertruper1988]

He was a neck sander at Fender in the 50s that would sign his necks and there some what of a following around his necks.

1950s Fender Vintage Guitar Craftsmen Tadeo Gomez

 

[J-Bones]

I also have numbers written in the neck pocket. 4.13 and vip48. I know it’s a VIP body, but am unclear what 48 or 4.13 might mean.

VIP48 would have been the original Showcase ID code. Doesn't really relate to any specs other than that it's a VIP body.

4.13 means 4 lbs 13 oz if it's older than, like, 2-3 years ago? I think? At some point I believe we changed it to be straight-up 4.13 lbs, which is why you'll see bodies with 4.44 written in the pocket today, but @Wolff05 may be able to clarify further.

 

[Wolff05]

Yes, the 4.13 is the weight. If the body was made before 6/2022, then it will denote 4lb 13oz. If it was made after 6/2022, then it will signify 4.13lb (4lb 2oz).

 

[Rick]

Now i have to look a t my neck pockets!