Since when is drug culture humor a no no? Barak Obama admitted to not only inhaling, but to snorting coke!! If Jay Leno or Letterman made a funny about that, you'd laugh your butt off. But someone brings it up on an internet forum and POOF..... gone. Geez who would have thought that people who like to play the guitar sometimes smoke a little something something. I'm not talking about crack either.
I'm no newbie to this forum, there was a day when you could have a sense of humor on here, now not so much :icon_scratch:
Honestly I find this kind of racial joking offensive http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=11962.0 but I don't go reporting it to the admin.
I realize that this is a family forum, I have an 11 year old son who regularly reads with me, I'm in now way afraid or ashamed to show him stuff on here, including a little pot comedy!!
If you think for a second that shielding your kids or someone else's kids from even the simple mention of the word joint or marijuana is helping the situation, you are dead wrong. That is (in my opinion) bad parenting. Kids are exposed to drugs and the drug culture everyday!! Ever hear of a guy named Seth Rogan? He's a comedian that is usually typecast as the 'pothead,' and I'd bet a lot of us think he is hilarious, because of his comedic view of pot. He is part of mainstream Hollywood, stuff way more kids are exposed to than a question if you like bong hits on this little forum If you aren't talking to your kids about drugs and being realistic, and forcing abstinence on them is not realistic, they are human beings they will do what you tell them they are not allowed to do.....
So instead of this 'drugs are bad because I said so' mentality maybe understand the choices that are out there for young people and instead of forcing your decisions (right, wrong, good or bad) on them, maybe a realistic approach of realizing that your kids are gonna do the same stupid stuff you did when you were thier age and when you find a bag of weed in little Jimmy's room, be glad that is all he is doing!!
My boy is 11 as I said and we have had the discussion over and over that if he is ever out when he is of driving age, and gets intoxicated, weather he is 21 or not, that he can call us for a ride home, no questions asked. But if he gets behind the wheel EVER even after having one, regardless of when he had it that night, he's gonna seriously regret driving, because that will be the last time. That goes for getting in a vehicle with anyone who has been drinking. We have always said he can call and we'll shutte all of his buddies home, too. I think that is far more responsible parenting than saying "DON'T DO DRUGS AND DON'T DRINK"
We started having these discussions with him 2 years ago. Same thing with pot. We realize kids 'experiment' with drugs, I'd rather him be responsible about experimenting than sneak around. Now don't think, even for a second that I would condone his eventual future drug use, or do drugs with him, but I'm realistic. It's out there, he will be exposed to it. We know this. I'd rather him live his life to the fullest, and be exposed to these things than shelter him from everything soceity tells us to tell him is bad... So do we tell him to Nancy Reagan? No, we tell him that it's ok to be responsible and that certian things are ok in moderation. I'd rather know he is getting intoxicated or inebriated responsibly (meaning not driving!!) with pot or alcohol than huffing paint and shooting heroin!! He knows at the tender age of 11 that coke and heroin are far worse choices to make than pot, and he knows that the use of those substances while living under our roof are not approved under our rules, if we ever find any powdered drugs or the evidence of their use, he will be checked into rehab that day!!! We have a 9 panel drug test here, he knows where it is, and he knows that if we suspect anything, we will test him. He also knows, more importantly, that if he tells the truth, straight up, man up, the consequences of his decisions will be far easier on him than if he tries to lie to us. Face it, when the heat is on, it's far easier to just lie than to be a man, so we give him credit and the benefit of the doubt when he 'mans up' We have open communication about our expectations from him and any drinking or drug use he might or might not decide to partake in. I think that is far better than just deleting a joke thread about the way you like to smoke...
Now, I have stated an opinion. It is my opinion. Again, good, bad, right or wrong........ My opinion. I'm not telling you to parent the way we choose to, and I'm not asking for parenting advice, I'm merely stating an opinion about an apparantly emotional subject. These topics need discussed, not censored!!!! This is why I have posted it in the off topic section. It doesn't have to do with politics, or guitars. It has to do with making decisions. I'm not telling you to raise your kids the way we are raising ours, that isn't my intention.
What I am saying is that my points are valid, and worth some thought. And I know I'm not one of the 'cool kids' here on this forum, it has gotten very '8th grade school bus' around here. So ad so doesn't like so and so, so they either blast them or report them. I may be a little more 'direct' or 'crass' than others, but my points are still valid. I also don't think someone with my guitar building knowledge should be banned because of my non guitar opinions or posts. I don't swear, and I don't flame anybody. While my opinions and beliefs may not be popular anymore, there is nothing disrespectful about this post, or any of my posts in a very long time. I just get the feeling that my posts are under the microscope, with someone trying to find something to ban me for. Now that's not cool. I happen to like this forum and the group of people. And I am a Turtle customer, maybe not the biggest spender, but I do plan to buy from them again, unless I keep feeling like I am not welcome here! We all can get guitar parts elsewhere, but we CHOOSE to buy from the turtle and we CHOOSE to join this forum!! I am in no way trying to put out a 'black cloud atmosphere,' I get the feeling that a few on here don't like what I have to say, so they don't want me here. Again, I haven't disrespected anyone on this forum that I can remember. I haven't called anybody out... If anything, I am the one who is being singled out and gets the negativity. Why? :dontknow:
I'm no newbie to this forum, there was a day when you could have a sense of humor on here, now not so much :icon_scratch:
Honestly I find this kind of racial joking offensive http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=11962.0 but I don't go reporting it to the admin.
I realize that this is a family forum, I have an 11 year old son who regularly reads with me, I'm in now way afraid or ashamed to show him stuff on here, including a little pot comedy!!
If you think for a second that shielding your kids or someone else's kids from even the simple mention of the word joint or marijuana is helping the situation, you are dead wrong. That is (in my opinion) bad parenting. Kids are exposed to drugs and the drug culture everyday!! Ever hear of a guy named Seth Rogan? He's a comedian that is usually typecast as the 'pothead,' and I'd bet a lot of us think he is hilarious, because of his comedic view of pot. He is part of mainstream Hollywood, stuff way more kids are exposed to than a question if you like bong hits on this little forum If you aren't talking to your kids about drugs and being realistic, and forcing abstinence on them is not realistic, they are human beings they will do what you tell them they are not allowed to do.....
So instead of this 'drugs are bad because I said so' mentality maybe understand the choices that are out there for young people and instead of forcing your decisions (right, wrong, good or bad) on them, maybe a realistic approach of realizing that your kids are gonna do the same stupid stuff you did when you were thier age and when you find a bag of weed in little Jimmy's room, be glad that is all he is doing!!
My boy is 11 as I said and we have had the discussion over and over that if he is ever out when he is of driving age, and gets intoxicated, weather he is 21 or not, that he can call us for a ride home, no questions asked. But if he gets behind the wheel EVER even after having one, regardless of when he had it that night, he's gonna seriously regret driving, because that will be the last time. That goes for getting in a vehicle with anyone who has been drinking. We have always said he can call and we'll shutte all of his buddies home, too. I think that is far more responsible parenting than saying "DON'T DO DRUGS AND DON'T DRINK"
We started having these discussions with him 2 years ago. Same thing with pot. We realize kids 'experiment' with drugs, I'd rather him be responsible about experimenting than sneak around. Now don't think, even for a second that I would condone his eventual future drug use, or do drugs with him, but I'm realistic. It's out there, he will be exposed to it. We know this. I'd rather him live his life to the fullest, and be exposed to these things than shelter him from everything soceity tells us to tell him is bad... So do we tell him to Nancy Reagan? No, we tell him that it's ok to be responsible and that certian things are ok in moderation. I'd rather know he is getting intoxicated or inebriated responsibly (meaning not driving!!) with pot or alcohol than huffing paint and shooting heroin!! He knows at the tender age of 11 that coke and heroin are far worse choices to make than pot, and he knows that the use of those substances while living under our roof are not approved under our rules, if we ever find any powdered drugs or the evidence of their use, he will be checked into rehab that day!!! We have a 9 panel drug test here, he knows where it is, and he knows that if we suspect anything, we will test him. He also knows, more importantly, that if he tells the truth, straight up, man up, the consequences of his decisions will be far easier on him than if he tries to lie to us. Face it, when the heat is on, it's far easier to just lie than to be a man, so we give him credit and the benefit of the doubt when he 'mans up' We have open communication about our expectations from him and any drinking or drug use he might or might not decide to partake in. I think that is far better than just deleting a joke thread about the way you like to smoke...
Now, I have stated an opinion. It is my opinion. Again, good, bad, right or wrong........ My opinion. I'm not telling you to parent the way we choose to, and I'm not asking for parenting advice, I'm merely stating an opinion about an apparantly emotional subject. These topics need discussed, not censored!!!! This is why I have posted it in the off topic section. It doesn't have to do with politics, or guitars. It has to do with making decisions. I'm not telling you to raise your kids the way we are raising ours, that isn't my intention.
What I am saying is that my points are valid, and worth some thought. And I know I'm not one of the 'cool kids' here on this forum, it has gotten very '8th grade school bus' around here. So ad so doesn't like so and so, so they either blast them or report them. I may be a little more 'direct' or 'crass' than others, but my points are still valid. I also don't think someone with my guitar building knowledge should be banned because of my non guitar opinions or posts. I don't swear, and I don't flame anybody. While my opinions and beliefs may not be popular anymore, there is nothing disrespectful about this post, or any of my posts in a very long time. I just get the feeling that my posts are under the microscope, with someone trying to find something to ban me for. Now that's not cool. I happen to like this forum and the group of people. And I am a Turtle customer, maybe not the biggest spender, but I do plan to buy from them again, unless I keep feeling like I am not welcome here! We all can get guitar parts elsewhere, but we CHOOSE to buy from the turtle and we CHOOSE to join this forum!! I am in no way trying to put out a 'black cloud atmosphere,' I get the feeling that a few on here don't like what I have to say, so they don't want me here. Again, I haven't disrespected anyone on this forum that I can remember. I haven't called anybody out... If anything, I am the one who is being singled out and gets the negativity. Why? :dontknow:
