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Kaoskadosk

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.. for my first build! Ordered the pieces today from Warmoth, going to take 10-12 weeks for them to arrive  :sad1: but oh well, it's worth the wait.

So here's the deal;

Soloist Mahogany body with a Flame Koa top, clear gloss finish
Mahogany neck with a Pau Ferro fetboard and Flame Koa veneer, Warmoth headstock, clear gloss aswell
http://www.warmoth.com/select/images/large/LT518a.jpg This is a part of the Flame Koa I'll be using.
All hardware is going to be in gold and I'm going to install a Schaller Floyd Rose on it aswell.

But there's one thing missing.. TRUE TEMPEREMENT FRETS!  :party07:
Might be an unofficialwarmoth.com first even!

Going to be expensive as hell but it's damn worth it, going to upload pictures once everything arrives, see ya!
 
Kaoskadosk said:
.. for my first build! Ordered the pieces today from Warmoth, going to take 10-12 weeks for them to arrive  :sad1: but oh well, it's worth the wait.

So here's the deal;

Soloist Mahogany body with a Flame Koa top, clear gloss finish
Mahogany neck with a Pau Ferro fetboard and Flame Koa veneer, Warmoth headstock, clear gloss aswell
http://www.warmoth.com/select/images/large/LT518a.jpg This is a part of the Flame Koa I'll be using.
All hardware is going to be in gold and I'm going to install a Schaller Floyd Rose on it aswell.

But there's one thing missing.. TRUE TEMPEREMENT FRETS!  :party07:
Might be an unofficialwarmoth.com first even!

Going to be expensive as hell but it's damn worth it, going to upload pictures once everything arrives, see ya!
Sounds sweet,,, :icon_thumright:
 
That is one sweet piece of koa...! :o
Very cool with someone going for a TT neck, I'm very interested to hear your impressions when it's done.
 
Very interesting. I'll be looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I was surprised and pleased to learn that True Temperament uses Warmoth necks. I would have thought they'd make their own, but I suppose it doesn't make any sense to do that when there's already a company making premium necks.
 
Cagey said:
Very interesting. I'll be looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I was surprised and pleased to learn that True Temperament uses Warmoth necks. I would have thought they'd make their own, but I suppose it doesn't make any sense to do that when there's already a company making premium necks.

Indeed :)
Also, Paul Guy is a very experienced guitar tech, especially Fenders. It's no wonder he knows about Warmoth!
 
kboman said:
That is one sweet piece of koa...! :o
Very cool with someone going for a TT neck, I'm very interested to hear your impressions when it's done.

I've been checking out a lot of soundclips and videos of people playing TT necks, so far I'm very excited. Tried out one of their guitars they had on display in the store, felt very nice, although that was a baritone guitar with quite odd string gauges.
I'm definitely going to upload a ton of pictures and videos once I get the guitar in my hands, there's far too little marketing done on these necks!


kboman said:
Cagey said:
Very interesting. I'll be looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I was surprised and pleased to learn that True Temperament uses Warmoth necks. I would have thought they'd make their own, but I suppose it doesn't make any sense to do that when there's already a company making premium necks.

Indeed :)
Also, Paul Guy is a very experienced guitar tech, especially Fenders. It's no wonder he knows about Warmoth!

Indeed he is!  :toothy10:
He's been a buyer of Warmoth parts for 30 years or so now and know pretty much every tech working there. :P I'm also very lucky to get a personal lesson on guitarcare by Anders Thidell while he assembles my guitar!  :hello2:
What's actually quite funny is that I bumped into him by accident when looking for a guitar tech to fix my neck on my Schecter and when I found out about True Temperament I knew I had to get one. The Warmoth necks didn't fit the Schecter however, but I didn't stop there. I knew I had to get a TT neck, so now I'm getting a custom!  :icon_thumright:
 
My real doubt about TT frets is: it can't be as hard as Stainless Steel, or would be arse to bend it... so, how is done the change of frets? something necessary in nickel/silver after some time playing....
 
NonsenseTele said:
My real doubt about TT frets is: it can't be as hard as Stainless Steel, or would be arse to bend it... so, how is done the change of frets? something necessary in nickel/silver after some time playing....

Well, they're cast in silicon bronze, the only way to do it properly, which is more durable than nickel and completely nickel free. Don't know if they're as sturdy as Stainless Steel, but then again I've never played on Stainless Steel frets so I'll probably be very happy with the silicon bronze, and they also look a bit goldish so they'll fiy my gold hardware!  :occasion14:

When it comes to change the frets it's very easy. They simply get a new set forged and replace the frets. Costs a bit more since the process is a bit more time-consuming than regular frets, but can be done by anyone using a fret press from StewMac. They also offer help and advice if needed and they'll get around to posting videos on how they do it in their shop some time.
 
Silicon bronze is some tough material, it's often used a lot in bushings and wear pads for its durability.
 
My doubt is how easy will be to take the funky frets without damaging the fretboard... I guess that it's not as easy as changing frets on a regular guitar, but if the builder has the patience to put the funky things, he may be able to change them...
 
NonsenseTele said:
My doubt is how easy will be to take the funky frets without damaging the fretboard... I guess that it's not as easy as changing frets on a regular guitar, but if the builder has the patience to put the funky things, he may be able to change them...

What do I do when the frets need dressing?
Fret levelling is done the exact same way as with standard frets. Re-crowning is more time-consuming than with standard frets, but any skilled luthier should be able to handle the job. (He will of course charge you considerably more than for standard frets!). We will be posting video on our website demonstrating the techniques and tools we use in our workshop, and will be happy to offer any help and advice we can. If you can't find a luthier who will take on the job you can send the neck to us for fret dressing at a reasonable rate.

How do I get one of these necks refretted?
Refretting a True Temperament neck requires considerably more patience than refretting a standard neck, but uses essentially the same techniques. We can supply a new set of frets, and will be making a special fret press shoe available, which will fit Stewart MacDonald Guitar Shop Supply fret presses. (We will also supply individual frets for repair situations.) Once again, we will be posting video on our website demonstrating the techniques and tools we use in our workshop, and will be happy to offer any help and advice we can. If you can't find a luthier who will take on the job you can send the neck to us for refretting at a reasonable rate.


That's what it sais on their website. :)
 
I'm there :) Sounds cool, but your bass player should have one too :)

Seems like it's normal to bend to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrPqgOqmRFM
 
NonsenseTele said:
I'm there :) Sounds cool, but your bass player should have one too :)

There's the cool thing, it works perfectly fine to use with other guitars/basses with normal frets.  :)
Even adds a bit of chorusing effect and the frequencies play together in a way that makes it sounds more pleasing than disturbing. It's like playing guitar together with a piano since most pianos are well-tempered. Of course, if everyone in the band is using TT necks it'll sound better, but it wound sound bad just because one have a TT neck :)

Here's some nice acoustic stuff aswell, also with the Thidell Formula 1 neck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHaKku_A1Q
 
Warpigz said:
$795 for a guitar neck? Over 8 bills for a bass? WHOAAA!!

Yeah, they're charging 560 euro (5500 swedish crowns, $699) just for the TT fret neck job. That's if you supply them with a warmoth neck. They do also do fretboard changes, but since that's a kinda tedious process it costs a bit aswell. Steve Vai had that done for Evo and Flo.

Though I'm in need of a proper guitar and while I'm at it I might aswell make it really kickass.  :party07:
 
Kaoskadosk said:
Here's some nice acoustic stuff aswell, also with the Thidell Formula 1 neck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHaKku_A1Q

I listened to that and some more of his clips, boy it sounds good. Crap, this W build I'm planning is getting more expensive every week :P
 
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