Is this even remotely possible?

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

They're both unconventional layouts, but the OP's is more an issue of room.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

Well, that depends. If you go with the universal route, I think it's possible with minor modifications.

 

[Velcro]

Can you put 'stealth' pickups under normal pickups?

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

I doubt

 

[drewfx]

You can get the dimensions of PU's from SD (among other places). "Traditional" strat PU's are bigger than the pickguard hole:

But there are also smaller modern strat PU's like this:

HB's:

 

[B3Guy]

I also think that it's the low output 'pups that's the sollution to these kind of projects. They wouldn't have the same magnetic field as the high output ones.
Anyways, this is a cool project, and there's a reason for that uneiversal route :sign13:

My thoughts exactly  :icon_thumright:

I tried to take that into consideration, drewfx. IDK how I did. maybe someone who has more experience could take a closer look at the pic and let me know.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

You could try to route the pickguard yourself if you have a dremel tool. I dont know if the tonal differences would be very noticeable, thinking about those two neck coils. The frequency of the string vibration would be pretty similar in those positions.

 

[Big V]

Just do it. You know you want to...

Is it just me, or is that actually an 8-coil? :tard:

 

[B3Guy]

Just do it. You know you want to...

Is it just me, or is that actually an 8-coil? :tard:

I really hope that is set up to shoot flames out the exhaust  :laughing7:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I also think that it's the low output 'pups that's the sollution to these kind of projects. They wouldn't have the same magnetic field as the high output ones.
Anyways, this is a cool project, and there's a reason for that uneiversal route :sign13:

My thoughts exactly  :icon_thumright:

I tried to take that into consideration, drewfx. IDK how I did. maybe someone who has more experience could take a closer look at the pic and let me know.

Not necessarily.  Magnetic field strength and pickup output are not always directly proportional.  Testing the DC resistance of a pickup will give you an ohm value that is just one indicator of a pickup's output.  The resistance of the wire more or less tells you how much copper is there, and you still don't know the gauge or number of windings.  Pickup output is an algebra problem with atleast 2 variables.  Magnet strength and DC resistance.  DC resistance has atleast 2 variables too.  Lace (Sensor) and EMG, for instance, both have relatively weak magnetic fields, but not necessarily weak outputs.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

I guess I learn something new every day
But I still think that it's possible to get a good sounding guitar out of it.

Would the string guage have any effect on the magnetic field?

 

[Jusatele]

if the string is ferromagnetic metal, yes

 

[B3Guy]

I also think that it's the low output 'pups that's the sollution to these kind of projects. They wouldn't have the same magnetic field as the high output ones.
Anyways, this is a cool project, and there's a reason for that uneiversal route :sign13:

My thoughts exactly  :icon_thumright:

I tried to take that into consideration, drewfx. IDK how I did. maybe someone who has more experience could take a closer look at the pic and let me know.

Not necessarily.  Magnetic field strength and pickup output are not always directly proportional.  Testing the DC resistance of a pickup will give you an ohm value that is just one indicator of a pickup's output.  The resistance of the wire more or less tells you how much copper is there, and you still don't know the gauge or number of windings.  Pickup output is an algebra problem with atleast 2 variables.  Magnet strength and DC resistance.  DC resistance has atleast 2 variables too.  Lace (Sensor) and EMG, for instance, both have relatively weak magnetic fields, but not necessarily weak outputs.

dude . . . where were you when I started the pup stealthing thread??? I've been trying to convince people there that these two things are not directly related, but it doesn't seem to sink in. they keep saying "well I used X type of pup, which is really high output, but it didn't stealth well", and I keep saying "output is not related to the size or strength of the magnetic field, which is the important factor when stealthing a pup".  :tard:

 

[Justinginn]

If you do it, EMGs.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

if the string is ferromagnetic metal, yes

I see.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

dude . . . where were you when I started the pup stealthing thread??? I've been trying to convince people there that these two things are not directly related, but it doesn't seem to sink in. they keep saying "well I used X type of pup, which is really high output, but it didn't stealth well", and I keep saying "output is not related to the size or strength of the magnetic field, which is the important factor when stealthing a pup".  :tard:

I was one of the ones you were trying to convince, LOL.  I knew this stuff, I just had to think about it.

 

[Jusatele]

After reading the entire thread it has come to me that it is not possible at all

:cool01: :laughing11: :laughing11: :laughing11: :cool01:

 

[pabloman]

Active pickups aren't really a good example to support your statement. The preamp does contribute to the output.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Active pickups aren't really a good example to support your statement. The preamp does contribute to the output.

Obviously.  The reasoning is still sound though, high output - weak magnetic field, just left out the details.  You're right, the preamp does make up the difference.  They've even said they don't make the pickup with output in mind because they'll just design the preamp for the desired output after the fact.  If you want to get uber technical, there's semantically no such thing as an active pickup, only active preamps, and even then calling it an active preamp is kind of a reduntancy.  In EMG's case the preamp isn't an outboard unit, but built into the pickup housing.

 

[Jusatele]

I have active pups in my Bass, it is about 14 years old, and I hate them. I actually am considering changing them out

not to high jack

Now not being a bassist, just filling in at times, My Bass is a Washburn with a J and a P pickup, SO.... Turbo, any advice on pups and new pots for it?