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How hard would it be to make something that looked like this?

while that finish does look pretty cool, it doesn't have as intensely textured of a look as what I'd want to do. Is that the Alsa stuff or you're saying it was just the same process?
Truthfully, evne tho that paint has a cool look to it - it doesn't those hard lines that give like a fractured crystal kind of look that the original finish does. A slightly more rigid plastic would probably result in those kinds of lines i guess, so i suppose it's all a similar concept - applying the paint in a unique and irregular way.
The more I look at it the more it looks like it just may have been applied with a sponge. not very metal if you ask me. but still looks awesome!

and Luke, do it! saves me some money if i don't like it. :P
 
Here's a couple pics of an old Ibanez I refinished with the alsa stuff. my old computer died, and i was only able to salvage a couple shots.
these are before the clear coats, but you'll get the idea.

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bagman67 said:
dNA said:
CrackedPepper said:
I apologize for thinking all of you were wrong about the purple even though you didn't know that I thought you were wrong.  I will never doubt you again!

those links don't work! or not how i think they should. it takes me to a site with another link, and then that link doesn't work

I didn't want to post long ugly links, but here they are in longhand (and cleaned up):

http://hubpages.com/hub/Faux-Painting-Techniques-Plastic-Bagging

http://www.hgtv.com/decorating/decorative-paint-technique-leather/index.html

Enjoy! 

Bagman


If you don't want to post the long ugly links here is something you can use


www.tinyurl.com

Put any link in there and it will come out like this... (using one of your links as an example)


http://tinyurl.com/y9u6o2v

There ya go. Hope this helps you in the future.
MULLY
BTW, the guitar is purple on my screen
 
Twelvebar said:
Here's a couple pics of an old Ibanez I refinished with the alsa stuff. my old computer died, and i was only able to salvage a couple shots.
these are before the clear coats, but you'll get the idea.

100_0516.jpg


100_0528.jpg

Do you have any fully assembled pictures of that guitar??
 
dna that guitar had a 'drunk friend' related accident prior to reassembly. i will be redoing it at some point this spring/summer.

It's an old (86) Ibanez Roadstar II from the Fujigen gakki factory.

When i redo it, I could try post progress pictures as i go. however it has no warmoth stuff, so not sure how kosher it would be to post here.

i had a thread on it on the same forum as ceri's projects, but I think a bunch of the picture links are dead now.

This is what it looked like after 20 odd years of my abuse before the redo:
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I guess I could explain to you what i did.

First i stripped it down with a heat gun and putty knife, but that's irrelevant to you if you want to use a new body.

I level sanded it, and prepped it, like any other body. i had to do some repairs, the guitar has a long history, which includes a basement flood, so it had some damage.

I used an autobody sandable primer (rattle can,) with no other sealer. i suppose you could use a sanding sealer, but i don't see the point. the body was basswood, so it didn't need filling.
I spent a lot of time wet sanding the primer level, i used two coats.

then I used the alsa 'Jet Black Base Coat' This had to be thinned to spray. they have a reducer agent as part of their system, use theor product. if you go rattle can, you won't need it. I have a compressor and spray guns, but they offer rattle cans too. this stuff was really really easy to spray. i laid down 2 thin coats.

Now the crazer comes ready to spray, don't reduce it at all! I tried a test spray on some scrap without the base coat, and the paint was really pale, and unattractive, but over the base coat it really pops. So what I did was spray the back and sides first. i put on a really thin coat, and then laid plastic wrap (normal food wrap,) over it. i sort of let it fall onto the surface. then you massage, or rub it. The more you move it around the tighter the pattern. I did a medium massage to get that effect on the back.

For the front I wanted a more dramatic or bold effect, so i let the wrap fall on the body, but i barely manipulated it at all. Where the plastic comes in contact with the body, paint sticks to the wrap, so it is blacker, and where there are bubbles or ridges in the wrap it leaves all or more of the paint behind, for the more striking green. really this is harder to explain than to do.

For the clear coats (after these shots,) i actually used their Killer Can spray can option. The clear coat is a 2 part (2K) urethane. They don't offer small quantities for spraying through your own gun, like they do with the basecoat and colors. So it was much cheaper to buy the spray can. Its a 2 compartment can, with a plunger that lets the 2 parts mix. After you activate it, you only have about 12 hours before the contents catalyse and are unsprayable. but this stuff is strong, and you only need a few thin coats, you aren't going to have to worry as much about sand throughs like with lacquer. You still have to be careful wetsanding, but not nearly as much. They say some people use 10 - 12 clear coats, and I might do that on a car fender or a mtorcycle tank. i got 3 decent coats from the one spray can, and it worked fine. One thing that can't be stressed enough, if you use the rattle can, follow the instructions closely. you need to shake the heck out of it, for at leat 10 or 15 minutes. You really need to make sure the 2 parts of the urethane mix together well. A friend used one of their cans on his motorcycle helmet, he didn't mix it well enough, some of the unmixed stuff came out, and it dried cloudy as heck, and unlike lacquer couldn't be fixed, it had to be stripped and redone.

the paint isn't cheap, it cost me way more than the value of the guitar. But it is fun, pretty easy and pretty unique.


 
i've been so anxious and busy getting ready for my big summer move, so I haven't even had time to think about getting supplies and testing this stuff. i've barely taken the time to oil my current build. Hopefully some time later this year I can try it out though. I may even consider using that painting technique on one room in my new place when I get to Portland.  :toothy11: Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input.
 
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