Hello and a little help please.

Dr Zoidberg

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Lo all, long time reader first time poster long time Warmoth owner etc etc.  :glasses10: I just got delivery of a strat body and neck and im going to post pics of the build very soon but Im off to the good old USA soon and fancy grabbing a LP body and neck but i'm weary of the sound i'll get with the bolt on neck. With the right bits [seymour duncans/locking tone pro bridge and stop tail, Gibson pots and bumble bee caps] will she sustain and give that Gibson tone? It's a major outlay of money and I just need to be reassued it will give me 'that sound'. Ive had a real Les Paul in the past and it beat all the copies i've owned hands down. Thinking of going wenge neck and ebony board with a quilted maple/mahogany back if thats makes any difference to the tone. 

/ Dave
 
Guys here that have W' LP says that it has the "big" sound but it's not 100% alike, but great tone and sustain... didn't see anyone that has/had a gibby and a Warmoth say that would give back/sell warmoth because it doesn't sound as wanted... and I was one of the most "c'mon must be glued or neck-thru" here... put those and be happy: http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=3836.0
 
I think sustain comes as much from the type of amplifier, body and neck wood, pickups used, bridge used, headstock angle, technique, etc, as it does from the neck joint.  Look at it this way, if you have wood on wood as in a bolt on neck, thats a pretty tight and close joint compared to having glue sandwiched in between them.  My strat with Rio Grande Texas BBQ pickups has sustain for days with my rig set up and it's much lighter than a Les Paul.
Just my 2 cents.

RK
 
I would not let bolt on / set neck dilemma stop you from building, probably the awesomest baddest LP ever...

Its all BS... 
 
I think don't do it, just because if it's not 100% like a Gibson to you you won't be happy with it. I think the sustain is great on mine, but I made mine not caring if it was like a real LP or not. I know that bolt on necks work just fine and have for a long lone time for tons of the best players in the world. Just because it's shaped like and LP doesn't change this fact for me. But it may not sound like your dream LP so...
 
Agreed.  If your goal is to have an exact Gibson replica, then you probably won't be happy with anything other than an actual Gibson, or a replica made by an experienced luthier following the exact patterns and building techniques as Gibson.  If you want a custom LP shaped guitar with all the bells and whistles that Gibson won't give you, then consider building a Warmoth.  For example, I love the LP shape and style, but I prefer the longer 25.5 scale, so when I build my "W" LP, it will have a 25.5 neck on it, along with the exact woods, pickups, and finish that I think would look cool.  Also, when I build a Warmoth, I'm not building it to suit anyone else's tastes but my own, so I know full well that it probably has less resale value than the total of the parts put into it - but that's OK because I'm not building it to sell it later - I'm building it to have my own custom guitar - and that's why you see so many hardcore Warmoth addicts on here.  It's a trip to have something built 100% to your spec.  If you look at the LP's that some folks on here have built you might think they look hideous because they have single coil pickups, or a Floyd, or a strat neck, or something unusual, but to that person who built it, it's exactly what they wanted.
 
I think the 25.5" scale with a bolt-on neck will more than compensate for the 24 3/4" set neck LP when it comes to sustain.  I wouldn't do it personally, but some glue the joint of a bolt-on neck when assembling.  Consider pickup choices too.  A passive pickup with a strong magnet close to strings can affect sustain as much as anything.  That's one advantage of an active, the preamp boosts the weak magnetic field.  My Strat with EMGs sustains for days.  A friend of mine with an LP Custom says his American Tele sustains better.
 
I've got two Warmoth LPs - love them. My son is currently putting together his first Warmoth guitar; an LP. It should be incredible when he's done.

I wouldn't suggest gluing the neck on a Warmoth body. It doesn't work and makes a mess. The massive force of the four screws holding a neck to the body without a layer of glue in between to interupt the sonic transfer is why you get great sustain.

My first LP was inspired by Gibby's 1968 reissue:
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Here's my Warmoth:
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You know I just noticed that on my LP I followed the old vintage tear-drop burst pattern on the front. I'm 99.9% sure that's how Gibson first presented that reissue to the public. Now that I search out a picture of it on the net it has a standard burst in pattern; equally bursted in from the edges. Hmmm.....  :icon_scratch:
 
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