Have you ever ran across THIS type of Warmoth Critisim?

[arealken]

As the owner and lover of over 8 Warmoths, one of my idiot buddies  can't won't and will not appreciate them.

When I tell Him I have a Warmoth Strat, his reaction is why? Nothing OI have said registers with him. All he can say is, I could have bought a Fender American Standard  for less than that.

If i try and tell him the Fender he has plays badly and frets out, and that the hardware and pickups  on it is mediocre , and  that I get top grade aftermarket  parts and pickups of my choice, and the radius/ neck profile that I prefer, frets that I want, and the body woods, along with  my chosen  body weight, all that goes in one ear and out the other.

I get miffed to no end , the guy, after trying to tell him, he just doesn't get it. His viewpoint remains ,to  get an American Standard, and sell my "junk". he truly believes I am wasting money getting Warmoth.

I hate that about him, and I guess other people are  are the same way- hopefully not many.

I told him I wanted him to see my new VIP. He has a lot of Gibsons ( mostly acoustic), and some Fenders . All he said was- "I don't wanna see no Warmoth".

:icon_scratch:

 

[stratamania]

He probably thinks something odd like that too about Suhr and Anderson, for example. There are some that can't get past the name on the headstock.

There was a thread on another forum recently and it was quite interesting the views of some folks about "the original brands" even though they aren't the same people or owners any longer.

I've got Fenders, a Gibson, a Hamer, Warmoths, a Musicman and a Suhr amp and had many others over the years. So I say play what you want.

All I can suggest, is to say we both have our views and opinions, and whatever his are suit him as your choices suit you. You respect his choices and expect him to respect yours. You both have the right to spend your money how you want to.

He probably does not care about what you play or your opinion in truth. Stop worrying about what he thinks.

 

[Cagey]

I say kick his ass. It'll teach 'im a lesson  :laughing7:

 

[stratamania]

I say kick his ass. It'll teach 'im a lesson  :laughing7:

If all else fails that ought to do it  :laughing7:

 

[mayfly]

I say - whatever.  There are idiots all over the world.  I would not worry about it.  Don't forget the old saying:

"Never engage an idiot in an argument.  They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

 

[bbl4ck]

Don't forget the old saying:

"Never engage an idiot in an argument.  They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Ah, great minds think alike...
:rock-on:

 

[bagman67]

Don't forget the old saying:

"Never engage an idiot in an argument.  They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Ah, great minds think alike...
:rock-on:

Another favorite of mine:


Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It never works, and it annoys the pig.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Well, having been a fanboy, customer, and short time employee, I don't let anybody spit in my biscuit dough like he did.

Time to take him out back behind the barn for a good strappin.

 

[anorakDan]

With all due respect to the above suggestions, I say, simply deny him the opportunity to play any of your beloved Warmoths. Personally, I'm not crazy about most people touching my guitars. I have clean and dry hands and I have no idea where theirs have been or when last washed. Not that I have a germ phobia, I just hate another's hand-grime on my necks.

But if you deny him the opportunity to feel how superior your guitars are to his, he may eventually become curious. Don't crumble. Continue to deny him the chance to play your guitars. It may just drive him to distraction. Then once you do reluctantly allow him 5 minutes with one of your Warmoths, the contrast in quality will make him hate his guitars and he'll beg you for help in designing his own Warmoth.

Besides, kicking his behind may land you in jail.

Jail with no guitars.

No one wants that.

 

[swarfrat]

Bah - the fact that W makes good stuff but their customer's, while appreciative and impressed, aren't generally total fanboys is one of their pluses.  The place across town may make good stuff too, but I really get the impression that if you either made a positive comment about Warmoth, or failed to appreciate that place, could get your tires slashed and your dog shot.

 

[Glimmer]

Sounds like an A@$hole.

(Did I just type that?! ?!)

 

[ghotiphry]

There's something much more of value in building your own guitar than the price paid.

As said before, you can pick the body, the neck, the tuners, the bridge, and everything in between, which components can be exactly as you want them, or an experiment with whatever you want to try.  If you don't like it, you can change it to your will.  And, in the end, there are individual and personal reasons for building said guitar, not the least of which are superior components, sound and playability, and the fact that it is yours and unique: you built it and made it what you wanted.  It's a labor of love for music and the instrument, and an satisfying expense of effort.  These are the reasons I started building my own.  Not collectability, price paid versus end value, or owning a name brand.

So, if your goal is to pay less for a guitar, or to buy a collectible to speculate on it's value, by all means get a Fender or a Gibson.

If someone were to call my guitars junk, that person would be free to their opinion.  However, I would be deeply offended at the callousness with which that person could dismiss my efforts.  Since I built this guitar with my hands, it's a part of me and a reflection of me.  Please respect that.

Having said all that, yeah, he sounds like an A@$hole.

 

[line6man]

Don't forget the old saying:

"Never engage an idiot in an argument.  They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Ah, great minds think alike...
:rock-on:

Another favorite of mine:


Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It never works, and it annoys the pig.

Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. Whether you win or lose, the pigeon will just knock all the pieces down and strut around, victoriously.

 

[DangerousR6]

All I can say is to those that are not open minded to trying new things and thinking out of the box, they will miss out on the spoils of life. To me designing and building a guitar specific to my tastes is better than any store bought guitar that one will find. :guitarplayer2:

 

[Wizard of Wailing]

    I say challenge him to a guitar duel.

 

[vetteman]

Besides, I had to have Warmoth do a custom finish on a thinline body, get a rosewood neck with stainless frets AND put TV Jones Supertrons in a build to get close to the price of an American Standard.  I say put a Fender headstock decal on one and see what he thinks after that!

 

[arealken]

Lots of good replies. I probably should've sent this to OT.

Anyhow, the guy can be a real prick. But he can also be the guy that goes the extra yard for you. . Nam veteran Marine,60 something  now ex cop-turned old hippie.
He's got a world class collection of Gibson Acoustics and a few nice electrics.

Maybe he can't deal with progress. But to be sure he can be a real prick.

 

[Cagey]

Forget what I said before. In light of this new information, I suggest a change in strategy. Let the Wookie win.

 

[mullyman]

I wouldn't let it bother me if I were you. Some people can't get past the name on the headstock. Regardless, when people ask me about my Warmoth guitars, and trust me, I get a lot of this conversation...

Him: Dude, gorgeous guitar. What is that?
Me: It's a Warmoth
Him: A what???
Me: Warmoth
Him: Never heard of those...
Me: They're a parts company. You build your own. Fender licensed all around. If your Strat neck breaks, you go to these guys. So they have bodies.....everything, you can build your own. I paid about 1200 for this one. As you can see just looking at it, if it said Fender on the head this would be a 5,000 dollar guitar. It's Custom Shop quality at an off the shelf price. Here, give her a ride.
Him: Damn, this feels great.
Me: Give her back!!

MULLY

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I run into it all the time.  Lurk on other forums.  It'll make your head explode.  But...to the people I know, I run into these 2 types more often than not.  1.) The purist that doesn't want a flatter fretboard radius on his Tele, insists on overpriced caps, wouldn't dream of a noiseless single coil, doesn't like non era specific colors, etc.  He only likes 2 brands, and guess what they are.  2.) The guy that sounds good and plays well but just bought what was at the store because he liked it.

So the cork sniffers, and the furthest from them, have no need for custom parts that somebody didn't choose for them.